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Jezza
2023 PREMIERS!
Joined: 06 Sep 2010 Location: Ponsford End
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David
to wish impossible things
Joined: 27 Jul 2003 Location: the edge of the deep green sea
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The sort of cartoonist who would make one invoke Voltaire's famous principle through gritted teeth. To be honest, I was kind of amazed that a mainstream newspaper would publish such hateful garbage (although to be fair, Leunig in The Age is just as unhinged). Sad for anyone to die at such a young age, but I hope his legacy will be a brief footnote in the history of Australian political cartooning. _________________ "Every time we witness an injustice and do not act, we train our character to be passive in its presence." – Julian Assange |
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stui magpie
Prepare for the worst, hope for the best.
Joined: 03 May 2005 Location: In flagrante delicto
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hateful garbage or provocative satirist?
Eye of the beholder? _________________ Every dead body on Mt Everest was once a highly motivated person, so maybe just calm the **** down. |
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regan is true fullback
Joined: 27 Dec 2002 Location: Granville. nsw
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Same category as Stan Zemaniak. Nobody noticed his passing except his wife...
Unlike Arthur Millers Eddie, I do not mourn for him "with a certain alarm". It's not worth it.
Quote: | Leunig in The Age is just as unhinged |
Wrong wrong wrong. Anyone who remembers Leunig's towering cartoon about the 1974 Election, with the immortal quotes such as:
Quote: | Malcolm Makerras is p-ling himself, if those b-st-ds get in that's it! and greed and ignorance have won, I closed my eyes and went to sleep. |
A masterwork which makes up for a lot of transgressions. |
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stui magpie
Prepare for the worst, hope for the best.
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nine Walkley awards and 19 Stanley awards . Bit more than a hack.
Good article
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-03-10/bill-leak-a-satirist-who-played-hard-and-took-no-prisoners/8344732
Quote: | For a long time he was accused of being a rabid lefty; more recently he has been taking pot-shots at the would-be censors of the same group who used to love him when he was so rude about the Howard government. |
_________________ Every dead body on Mt Everest was once a highly motivated person, so maybe just calm the **** down. |
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ronrat
Joined: 22 May 2006 Location: Thailand
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Those who know Fred Negro know that cartoonists by nature love a good piss take. Leak no different. _________________ Annoying opposition supporters since 1967. |
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stui magpie
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I've met him, had a caricature done by him. Won't pretend i know him but seemed like a good bloke. _________________ Every dead body on Mt Everest was once a highly motivated person, so maybe just calm the **** down. |
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Jezza
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Joined: 06 Sep 2010 Location: Ponsford End
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More like a free speech hero! _________________ | 1902 | 1903 | 1910 | 1917 | 1919 | 1927 | 1928 | 1929 | 1930 | 1935 | 1936 | 1953 | 1958 | 1990 | 2010 | 2023 | |
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Mugwump
Joined: 28 Jul 2007 Location: Between London and Melbourne
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There is clearly a fearless core of uncomfortable truth in much of what he published, and that is the cartoonist's job. I didn't think he was especially witty or paradoxical, though, which is the other hallmark of a great cartoonist. The 2007 election "tsunami" cartoon is a good example of a great political cartoon, but there are not so many of these.
At least he was prepared to depict things that fashionable opinion would rather not have discussed. That is a credit to him. _________________ Two more flags before I die! |
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HAL
Please don't shout at me - I can't help it.
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A credit to him is a terrible thing to waste. |
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Jezza
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The club has paid their respects in the passing of Trevor Grant on the club's website.
Quote: | The President, Board, staff and members of the Collingwood Football Club would like to express their sadness at the passing of respected journalist and passionate Collingwood man Trevor Grant.
A sports journalist for more than 40 years, Grant worked in Melbourne newspapers between 1968 and 2008. For years, Victorians read his work in the Herald Sun, the Sunday Herald Sun, the Sunday Press, the Sunday Herald, The Age, the Sporting Globe and Newsday.
A passionate Collingwood supporter, Grant was one of the five-man panel that selected Collingwood's Team of the Century in 1997. It was the first Team of the Century to be named by an AFL club.
The club would like to extend its deepest sympathies to the Grant family.
Side by Side We Stick Together. |
http://www.collingwoodfc.com.au/news/2017-03-07/vale-trevor-grant _________________ | 1902 | 1903 | 1910 | 1917 | 1919 | 1927 | 1928 | 1929 | 1930 | 1935 | 1936 | 1953 | 1958 | 1990 | 2010 | 2023 | |
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David
to wish impossible things
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Larry Pickering won four Walkleys too, I believe – say no more about that! I guess mainstream newspaper cartoonists live in a pretty small fishbowl.
Perhaps I was a little overly harsh on Leunig... I have enjoyed some of his stuff in the past, I admit. But I found Leak's cartoons stylistically ugly and worse politically (perhaps more so for his cartoons about gays and Muslims than the one about Indigenous fathers that landed him in so much trouble, although that too was pretty repugnant). _________________ "Every time we witness an injustice and do not act, we train our character to be passive in its presence." – Julian Assange |
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Mugwump
Joined: 28 Jul 2007 Location: Between London and Melbourne
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^ I don't know how anyone could not like Leunig. Perhaps I have not seen enough of his recent work, but he is surely one of the most whimsically satisfying cartoonists ever. I don't especially agree with his world view, but he has a profoundly original mind and something to say about life that seems far above Bill Leak. _________________ Two more flags before I die! |
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David
to wish impossible things
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I find Leunig often politically didactic and that his whimsy becomes a little less cute when he's asking us to take him seriously (see his anti-vaccination cartoons etc.). But I do have a book of some of his '70s work which I feel is more impressive and interesting than what he's doing today, and I do understand the regard he is held in.
Perhaps I find the political cartoon a strange art form in general – it's great at pointing out hypocrisy and irony, but otherwise I find it the art form that is most naturally disposed to propaganda. Leak's work in particular rarely seemed funny or insightful; it really did seem like it belonged in the right-wing counterpart to some revolutionary leftist tract – say, the Spectator. Perhaps it's a testament to where the Australian has moved politically that Leak was their go-to cartoonist.
Oh, and Jezza, I really must respond to your claim that he was a 'free speech hero'. Let's get one thing straight: those of us who are passionate about defending free speech are often called upon to defend crude, idiotic, deliberately offensive work. Being the subject of a censorship row is not inherently praiseworthy; any bigot or empty provocateur can do that. Let us reserve our praise for those who have actually done something to advance the cause of freedom of expression, as opposed to those whose chief purpose in life is to serve as the thin edge of the wedge. _________________ "Every time we witness an injustice and do not act, we train our character to be passive in its presence." – Julian Assange |
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think positive
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Wow, feeling the love in this thread, thought I'd have a look at his work, (people get awards for this?) took me about 15 min to find something funny or true, but it's very fitting to the thread!
http://cdn.newsapi.com.au/image/v1/f2fd09621216abe834e5b313e7eeb208
And this
http://cdn.newsapi.com.au/image/v1/1a85962ab64b5efb8355ada47cfb4038
These people liked him
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/blogs/andrew-bolt/bill-leak-dies/news-story/aae287d576bab6f6e3378b0638728a30
This lady not so much
http://www.abc.net.au/triplej/programs/hack/why-i-took-bill-leak-cartoon-to-the-human-rights-commission/8030268
Then I found this
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-10-20/bill-leak-cartoon-accurate-reflection-karl-ocallaghan-says/7951320
That's pretty sad, and if that cartoon helps get that story out there, well it's got to be a good thing.
Someone is always offended by every truth, satire is a humour not for every palate, sometimes truth needs to be said in an offensive fashion for it to hit home. And sometimes jokes go too far.
Well Bill, I'd never heard of you, seems you hit the mark in your aim, in more ways than one, 61 is too young for anyone to die, RIP, most people deserve that.
Except umpires. _________________ You cant fix stupid, turns out you cant quarantine it either! |
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