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Pies4shaw
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With Anthony Rocca, it was "inside 75". With Clokey, it's always been "outside 50s". |
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Member 7167
"What Good Fortune For Governments That The People Do Not Think" - Adolf Hitler.
Joined: 18 Dec 2008 Location: The Collibran Hideout
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It is an indicator of the potential opportunities at goal and depending on results can give a good insight into which teams take advantage of these opportunities and those that do not have the fire power. Few stats in the modern game give a great deal of insight in isolation. _________________ Now Retired - Every Day Is A Saturday |
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GoWoodsmen
Joined: 18 Apr 2005 Location: Australia
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Cam wrote: | Or what their scoring efficiency was when it did. The two combine to tell the story. |
Cam, bang on. For mine scoring shots are a huge indicator. All year - and through all of footy history - bad kicking is bad footy. How many games this year did teams only have 2 less scoring shots and lose by 40+ points. Ridiculous.
Last night at one point the Cats only had 4 less scoring shots and they were 48 points or something down.
If they won the stat by that much it tells me either they were bombing it in with zero system (a la Collingwood style for much of this year and last) OR the Swans defenders had the game of their lives. _________________ Side By Side Forever |
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AN_Inkling
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^^Mostly bombing. They "won" the midfield battle but struggled to get any separation so they could make solid 50m entries. The Swans had much more space in which to deliver the ball and hence hit more targets. _________________ Well done boys! |
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Cam
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Joined: 10 May 2002 Location: Springvale
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Inside 50s can also be misleading if the opposition spacing has them clearing and switching through the 50 m arc i guess _________________ Get back on top. |
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stui magpie
Prepare for the worst, hope for the best.
Joined: 03 May 2005 Location: In flagrante delicto
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Inside 50 should be looked at with other stats, such as marks inside 50 and scores from inside 50's.
If a team gets plenty of ball inside 50 but fails to take marks and/or score, it tells you a clear picture that they're getting their hands on the ball in midfield but aren't hitting targets.
So it's not an irrelevant stat, it's an indicator. It tells you something about how you played when you combine it with others.
You can win contested ball and get beaten.
You can win uncontested ball and get beaten.
You can get more total disposals than the opposition and can get beaten.
There's only one statistic that is guaranteed to win you the game, and that's if the sum of your goals and behinds is more points than the opposition, you win.
All of the others are indicators. _________________ Every dead body on Mt Everest was once a highly motivated person, so maybe just calm the **** down. |
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RudeBoy
Joined: 28 Nov 2005
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burnsy17 wrote: | Inside 25 is a more relevant stat |
Inside the two big sticks is even more relevant. |
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Pies2016
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At club level, they pay more attention to repeated entries inside 50.
This stat helps them see how the defence and mid field has set up in regard to regaining possession for a repeat entry ( or not ) |
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loki04
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Joined: 10 Apr 2005 Location: Broken Hill
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Pies2016 wrote: | At club level, they pay more attention to repeated entries inside 50.
This stat helps them see how the defence and mid field has set up in regard to regaining possession for a repeat entry ( or not ) |
Should be the quality of entry rather then the number.
It's like when the club says we were the top 3 for DE in the last 10 rounds that may be true BUT how did we move the ball crab kicking 20m to the left may give you a good DE but it doesn't help with ball movement.
Ditto with our movement into the f50 usually just haphazard entries. _________________ Up the Mighty Mags 2016. |
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Jezza
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In tonight's match, the Dogs had 68 inside 50s to the Giants 45 but only won by a goal.
Make of that what you will. _________________ | 1902 | 1903 | 1910 | 1917 | 1919 | 1927 | 1928 | 1929 | 1930 | 1935 | 1936 | 1953 | 1958 | 1990 | 2010 | 2023 | |
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Raw Hammer
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Jezza wrote: | In tonight's match, the Dogs had 68 inside 50s to the Giants 45 but only won by a goal.
Make of that what you will. |
The Dogs missed at least 7 easy shots. Dominated the game forward of centre. Only GWS brilliance/efficiency due to sublime skill (first round draft picks) kept them in the game. _________________ Est. 2002 |
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Cam
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That Whitfield guy is a gun. _________________ Get back on top. |
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RudeBoy
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Raw Hammer wrote: | Jezza wrote: | In tonight's match, the Dogs had 68 inside 50s to the Giants 45 but only won by a goal.
Make of that what you will. |
The Dogs missed at least 7 easy shots. Dominated the game forward of centre. Only GWS brilliance/efficiency due to sublime skill (first round draft picks) kept them in the game. |
The dogs were all set to smash the giants until they lost their ruckman for the night and had to switch their full forward into the ruck. for the rest of the night they got smashed in the ruck and had no tall marking power in front of goals. To win under those circumstances was a gutsy effort. |
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King Monkey
Joined: 15 Apr 2009 Location: On a journey to seek the scriptures of enlightenment....
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I think the OP is looking at it from the wrong angle.
Inside 50's tell a story. A little like the possession stat or territory stat in soccer. Doesn't tell you who won but can suggest how the flow of the game went. _________________ "I am a great sage, equal of heaven.
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Pies2016
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Inside 50s as a stat, are less relevant these days because so many clubs choose to set up with an extra in defence. It's very difficult to score with the first entry into your own forward 50. As I said in my earlier post, repeat inside 50s are far more important because it becomes easier to score if the extra man in defence is caught out of position.
It's a little known stat ( repeat inside 50s ) that the Hawks led every year throughout their prime. Obviously it helps that their execution was so much better than anyone else too. |
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