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Pies4shaw Leo

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PostPosted: Sat Oct 17, 2020 7:24 pm
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^Roughly interpreted, the position is "Look at all these dead people from the virus - that's the ALP's fault and we absolutely must open up now".
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 17, 2020 7:34 pm
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Well it is the ALPs fault and yet they continue to devise their own strategy and then deny its their strategy.

But I’m not sure why anyone would give them a pass when you see every other state and territory living it up and even Regional Victoria finally allowed back to some form of normality, yet metro Melbourne remains locked up with the sort of numbers others states have been able to control without strict lockdowns.

Then if 3 people get sick they lose their minds amid fears another wave is about to run out of control...
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 18, 2020 7:36 am
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Fact is, Eddie, the clear majority of people approve of the Andrews Government and the polls have Victorian Labour well in front.

(You could, however, make a good argument that this has little to do with the quality of the current government and a lot to do with the chaotic state and appalling behaviour of the Victorian opposition.)

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PostPosted: Sun Oct 18, 2020 8:50 am
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2 new cases and no new deaths reported in Victoria.

The 7-day rolling average of cases was over 10 for the week ending 10 October and is about 5.4 for the week ending today.

As reported by DHHS this morning:

- 14 day rolling averages: Metro 7.5 (down); Regional 0.5 (steady).

- Unknown source cases: Metro 15 (down); Regional 0 (steady).
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 18, 2020 11:00 am
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"The United States surpassed eight million known cases this past week, and reported more than 70,000 new infections on Friday, the most in a single day since July. Eighteen states added more new coronavirus infections during the seven-day stretch ending on Friday than in any other week of the pandemic.

In Europe, cases are rising and hospitalizations are up. Britain is imposing new restrictions, and France has placed cities on “maximum alert,” ordering many to close all bars, gyms and sports centers. Germany and Italy set records for the most new daily cases. And leaders in the Czech Republic described their health care system as “in danger of collapsing,” as hospitals are overwhelmed and more deaths are occurring than at any time in the pandemic."


(NY Times)
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 18, 2020 11:03 am
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The Premier's presser is about to start. You can watch it, here: https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-10-18/coronavirus-australia-live-news-covid19-latest-victoria/12779442
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 18, 2020 11:09 am
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Here we go.

137 active cases. 4 reclassified cases. 12 in hospital, none in intensive care. 18,546 test results received since yesterday.
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 18, 2020 11:11 am
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7 active cases in regional Victoria. 4 in Mitchell Shire and 3 in Shepparton (a special shout-out to our truck driver for those 7).
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 18, 2020 11:15 am
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For Metro

With effect from 11.59 pm tonight:

- no time limit on leaving home.

- travel distance up from 5 to 25 kms

- outdoor gatherings up (various limits for different activities)

- tennis, skateparks, golf, hairdressers, real estate auctions, commercial real estate, swimming pools (with some restrictions), house repairs and maintenance (some restrictions)

From 11.59 1 November:

- 4 reasons to leave home removed

- retail open

- hospitality (limits)

beauty and personal services

- contact sport for young people

- increased numbers at outdoor gatherings and entertainment.


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PostPosted: Sun Oct 18, 2020 11:18 am
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In regional Victoria:

- From 11.59 pm tonight, increased people visit to home (2 adults and their dependents per day)

- hospitality increases to 70 outside and 40 inside

- there are other adjustments to various limits

From 11.59 1 November:

- nothing much of great excitement - read it somewhere else.

Fire and flood preparation:

If you have a property in regional Victoria, you can travel from Metro from Wednesday next week in compliance with a fire prevention notice from the regional Council
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 18, 2020 11:19 am
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No changes to border arrangements and checkpoints.
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 18, 2020 11:22 am
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Intervening weekend:

It's now less about numbers than about the stories behind the numbers - qualitative, rather than the numbers.

Confident that by 1 November, we will be able to open up as Premier says but if in next week there are constant low numbers etc, Premier hopes to be able to make further announcements to bring forward the 1 November changes. "Some optimism" we might be able to bring the 1 November changes forward.
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 18, 2020 11:23 am
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Not everything everybody wanted is in these announcements. Have announced what is safe. If we could do more, safely, we would.
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 18, 2020 11:27 am
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The Grand Final:

Your household and only your household. You can't have friends over. Can't pretend it's over because we want it to be.

No barbecue with friends....

[Sausage manufacturers Australia-wide will be outraged; butchers will be declaring voluntary insolvency].
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 18, 2020 11:34 am
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Extracts from the ABC blog:

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From 11:59pm on Sunday, November 1, in regional Victoria

Non-contact indoor physical recreation for under 18 -year-olds, for instance dance classes, will be allowed again with a maximum of 20 people.
Non-contact indoor community support for under 18 -year-olds with limits on spectators, that will be allowed again also.


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Travel allowed for fire and flood prevention measures of homes in regional Victoria

With the memories of last year's bushfire season still fresh, Premier Dan Andrews said people from metropolitan Melbourne who have a second property in regional Victoria will be allowed to travel to that property, solely for the reason of fire or flood managment.

Mr Andrews said it was not a reason to spend a few days in regional Victoria. Permits will be required and it will be monitered by authorities.

"If you have a property in regional Victoria, and you want to travel to that property and you are in metropolitan Melbourne, to make it ready for either flood or fire, the usual activity that goes on in October/November every year, there will be a process in consultation with your local council from Wednesday next week to go and do those important works.
"It will be upon the issuance by your council of a fire prevention notice that legally requires you to go and do the work.

"This is not an invitation to go and have a couple of days in regional Victoria and essentially move into regional Victoria without due reason. It is where you have a fire prevention notice, that letter of support from your council will also be with instructions from Victoria Police and the Chief Health Officer that the restrictions that apply and the rules that apply in Melbourne will travel with you when you go to your fire-prone second property.
"Whatever it may be … do the necessary work, whether it be around flood because we do have the bureau is forecasting significant rainfall activity throughout the next couple of months.

"I will not go to through too much on that, we will put up the information so people have detail well ahead of Wednesday but this has been an issue that has been raised consistently and we have listened and we have a framework around it but I stress again it is not an invitation for people who really do not have fire clean-up to do or flood preparedness to do to use this as an opportunity to travel to regional Victoria."


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From 11:59pm tonight in regional Victoria

Two people plus dependants are allowed into the home. The bubble is gone, you can have as many different families visit you but they can only be two adults and dependants at a time per day.
Hospitality venues can increase their capacity to 70 people outside and 40 people inside.
Four groups of 10, instead of two groups of 10.
Outdoor religious gatherings will increase to 20 people.
Indoor pools will open for 18 and under, a maximum of 20 swimmers.
One-on-one hydrotherapy with health professionals will also be allowed.
Libraries, toy libraries will open again, a maximum of 20 people.
Households can visit a care facility rather than one person at a time.


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From 11:59pm on Sunday, November 1 in Metro Melbourne

The four reasons to leave home will be removed.
A maximum of two people plus dependents, once-a-day, will be able to visit homes. Not a bubble, not an exclusive arrangement, but essentially one family, two adults and children, to your home, once-a-day. No more often than that.
Retail will open back up.
Hospitality, a maximum of 20 people inside and 50 people outside, will reopen.
Beauty and personal services will return.
Contact sport for under 18-year-olds and non-contact for adults will recommence. A maximum of 20 people will be allowed for outdoor religious gatherings.
A maximum of 10 people will be allowed at weddings.
A maximum of 20 mourners at funerals.
Outdoor seated entertainment can host a maximum of 50 people or 25 per cent of the venue's fixed seat capacity.


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From 11:59pm tonight in Metro Melbourne

There will be no time limit to leave your home for exercising or socialising.
The radius you can leave your home will extend from 5km to 25km.
10 people from two households can gather outside.
Tennis, skate parks, golf and hairdressers will be back open.
Real estate auctions will occur with a maximum of 10 people and commercial real estate inspections can occur.
Outdoor pools can host 30 swimmers.
Indoor pools can open up for one-on-one hydrotherapy with a health professional.
Subject to being COVID-safe:
Non-essential outdoor home maintenance, repairs, renovations, house painting, can occur with a maximum of five workers.
Solo or automated car washing and pool cleaning will be allowed.
Mobile or home business pet grooming will be allowed, outdoor photography will be allowed, and there will be a full return of allied health services.
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