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qldmagpie67
Joined: 18 Dec 2008
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Post subject: A deeper dive | |
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This start to the season may have been masked by the premiership last year
Our last 12 games played we are 6-6
Our biggest winning margin (admittedly against a weakened side) was 70 points against Essendon
Taking that result away our next biggest winning margin was 8 points
Our losses where by
15-33-32-24-32-17
The first 3 are our first 3 games of this season the last 3 our 3 losses in our last 9 games
In those losses of 2023 our pressure rating for the game averaged 158 which was well below our average in winning games of 197 (AFL average was 186 in winning sides)
In 2024 our average pressure rating is 152 well below the current AFL average of 188.
In 2023 our players with more than 150 games experienced averaged 3.7 clangers/turnovers per game each in 2024 that has risen to 7.9 that’s double the error rate
Our kicking efficiency in 2023 for all games all players was 69.3% which was marginally above the AFL average of 68.4%
In 2024 it’s 54.9% well below the AFL average of 67.8%
Our pressure acts for the entire team is down by 42 per game from our season average in 2023
Make of it what you will but the stats generally tell a story good or bad but it shows that we are behind in many areas of the game
Maybe our manic pressure and game style has caught up with us coupled with the fact we relied upon our senior players so much in the final stages of 2023 that those same senior players now don’t have that extra left in the tank
Any improvement we get from here on in will have to come from the players agreed under 30 and to become less dependent on the over 30’s players to carry the load |
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lazzadesilva
Joined: 04 Feb 2003
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Post subject: Re: A deeper dive | |
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^Makes a lot of sense to me and answers a few questions I had. I have noticed the lack of intensity and even the passion to win this year, which is usually unheard of at Collingwood. Can players who had a belly full after winning the flag find that hunger to win a few months later? I honestly don’t know. _________________ I term the current Collingwood attack based strategy “Unceasing Waves” like on a stormy and windy day with rough seas. A Perfect Storm ☔️ |
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The Black and White Lion
The Black and White Lion
Joined: 29 Apr 2022
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Dare I say it but we might have to play Malthouse down the line or Buckley slow and steady for a few matches just to try to avoid the high pace slingshot footy. It will still be a test of our skills but will be more dour and and give the old legs a bit of a chance.
Otherwise I’m ready for this team to have a farewell home game and then to rip it apart for something new to bring the life, energy and excitement back.
Fresh legs please. Back to basics please. No fancy hands. Hit the lead up. No helicopter bombs to a congested stagnant Fwd 50 _________________ Premiership Pies made it legendary in 2023, don’t let them forget it. #Go PIES 2024…. |
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K
Joined: 09 Sep 2011
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Leigh Matthews:
"One of the interesting things, the pressure rating ... is really low because they are playing without a great deal of energy. Why is that?
"You bring up hypotheticals. They have a lot of plus-30s on their list, and their team, like seven or eight. We know that time stops for no man, that the ageing process, eventually players drop off on energy of performance because you are a little bit slower, a little bit less energy, the pressure grabs hold of you, you start making mistakes. That seems to me what has happened with Collinwood in these few weeks.
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"Their confidence would have to be shaky, and the confidence not only in yourself, but your teammates. Because if your teammates start making mistakes, you don't trust them." |
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BazBoy
Joined: 11 Sep 2014
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This “lose first 4” and can’t make final 8
Well let’s look at season 1975. A 22 game season with a final 5
North loses first 5 and in fact win 2 from first 8 —14 wins get them 3rd
Come Finals 2 get rolled by Hawks
Win Finals 3 so another crack at Hawks who they flog 19.13 to 9.8
OK so it’s away s back but it can be done from a crap start _________________ I'm not arguing--just explaining why i am right |
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Johnno75
Joined: 07 Oct 2010 Location: Wantirna
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It’s exactly what I have seen when watching the last 2 games at the MCG. Fumbling and turnovers and not enough pressure on the ball. _________________ Human behavioural studies suggest people who use a lot of swear words tend to be more honest & trustworthy. |
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Rd10.1998_11.1#36
rd10.1998_11.1#36
Joined: 18 Jul 2018 Location: Sevilla, Spain
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K
Joined: 09 Sep 2011
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Rd10.1998_11.1#36 wrote: | ...
FMD, really? |
That was less than 12 Lazza years ago. |
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stui magpie
Prepare for the worst, hope for the best.
Joined: 03 May 2005 Location: In flagrante delicto
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After round 10 last year,
GWS was 3 wins and 7 losses and lost the prelim to us by bugger all.
Carlton was 4 wins, 5 losses and a draw. They also made the Prelim.
It would be nice to bank wins early in the season but I'd prefer to be in top form come September rather than March/April.
I'll get concerned if we're still struggling come the mid season bye. _________________ Every dead body on Mt Everest was once a highly motivated person, so maybe just calm the **** down. |
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lazzadesilva
Joined: 04 Feb 2003
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K wrote: | Rd10.1998_11.1#36 wrote: | ...
FMD, really? |
That was less than 12 Lazza years ago. |
😳 🤔 😅 😝 _________________ I term the current Collingwood attack based strategy “Unceasing Waves” like on a stormy and windy day with rough seas. A Perfect Storm ☔️ |
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