A Grundy thread

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[Monco Matt]

That's 2 from 2.

I say trade him for a bucket load of 1st rounders and dump the full contract.

The ruckmen need only be competitive on a modest salary. Oh, yeah, winning 50 HO's a game stuffing them all down the oppos throat is something we can do without.

The evidence is mounting!

By the way, I am a Grundy fan, just not a fan of his pay check and HO's, which are both crippling us.

Floreat Pica.

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[Fino]

Trade him ASAP.

[eddiesmith]

2020- No Gawn with Grundy, Collingwood get smashed
2021- With Gawn, no Grundy, Collingwood win

[piffdog]

Am i too much of a conspiracist or has Grundy been stranegly absent through the whole Buckely departure over the last couple weeks? If we are to believe the rumors from earlier in the year he is one of a few to have particular issue with the coach... I know he was injured, and may well have been away form the club, but I havent seen him in any of the media the club has published over the last couple weeks.

In addition - I note he wasnt in Sydney with the team when Adams and Howe were, but I suppose they are in leadership roles and there were also lots of younger other guys who didnt make the trip either...

I don't begrudge him the contract he is on, but am I being too cynical to ask if he's invested in Collingwood as some of the other players appear to be?

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Wayne Carey:

"It wouldn’t be surprising if Brodie Grundy or Josh Kelly ended their careers at different clubs too, because of how quickly things can change.

When Grundy signed his seven-year deal, the Magpies were premiership contenders.

Now, they’re obviously rebuilding with a new coach, new football boss, a new president and maybe a different board to the one that sanctioned those seven years."

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[Pies4shaw]

Of course, we do know that's all drivel.

Darcy had a good game and got a coaches' vote. Grundy had a better game and got 2.

Looking at the stats, it's easy to see what actually happened. Since Darcy took over as Fremantle's first ruck in round 5 (Lloyd Meek started the season in that role), he's averaged nearly 34 hitouts per game (that puts him second on average in the competition behind only - of course - Grundy). He had just 19 against Collingwood - that's the least he's managed since he took over as first ruck (and contrasts with the 40 he got the previous week). He attended 57 ruck contests, so he won just a third of the hitouts. Just 6 of those went to advantage. Grundy attended 56 ruck contests for 27 hitouts, 10 of which went to advantage. Between them, the other three players who attended the ruck contests (Lobb, Cameron and Acres) managed a total of 3 hitouts, 1 to advantage (Lobb).

Around the ground, Grundy was much more damaging. The usual whining is that Grundy doesn't take marks or kick goals. He took three contested marks, 3 marks inside 50 and kicked 2 goals. That performance would have won the game for Collingwood, if it hadn't been for the inability of our hopelessly weakened defence to keep Lobb under wraps.

Darcy did get a couple of clearances from the centre with big kicks. Ultimately, though, the game was lost because our mids couldn't get a clearance, even when Grundy put it on a plate for them, and our team couldn't turn its vast advantage in disposals and marks into scores. I presume we all know that's because our forward line is awful. It isn't because Grundy won the ruck, took contested marks, kicked goals, had 7 score involvements and managed 22 disposals. Even last year, when Collingwood won the ruck 51 to 28 (and Grundy took Darcy to the cleaners, with 43 hitouts to 19, a goal, 2 contested marks and 2 marks inside 50), we lost because our forwards were poor. Our forwards managed 3 goals that day (of the 7, WHE, Mihocek and Stephenson each got 1 and the others were kicked by Sidebottom, 2, Grundy and Sier), despite a substantial advantage in inside 50s. Taberner won the game with 4 goals. In 2019, Fyfe and Hill beat us, despite Grundy monstering Fremantle's rucks (team hitouts 53 to 15). The last time we beat Freo was 2018. Again, Grundy monstered them in the ruck (team hitouts were 62 to 25). That year, though, our forwards occasionally got the ball and Collingwood won by more than 10 goals. Since 2018, we haven't been able to beat Fremantle with a massive ruck advantage because our team lacks pace and class around the ball and has an incompetent forward line. It's scarcely surprising that, on a day when Darcy almost broke even in the ruck, Fremantle again won because our team lacks pace and class around the ball and has an incompetent forward line.

Sure it wasn't Grundy's best game last week (though he was rated Collingwood's third best by the coaches) but the continuing moronic noise about him whenever an opposition ruckman touches the ball against him is wearing thin.

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