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mattdally
Joined: 21 Feb 2003 Location: Melbourne, Victoria, Australia
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Post subject: Nathan Freeman | |
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Would we consider mid season draft?
His numbers in the VFL this season so far:
Round 1 - 28 kicks, 13 handballs, 2 marks, 3 tackles
Round 2 - 29 kicks, 13 handballs, 8 marks, 1 tackle |
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PyreneesPie
PyreneesPie
Joined: 22 Aug 2014
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What position has he been playing Matt? Midfield I presume? They are amazing stats. |
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Abdul The Bull
Joined: 02 Aug 2017
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There's a reason he's not on an AFL list anymore. I have heard that he was reluctant to listen to coaching and/or senior players and wasn't prepared to do the work required to perform at the highest level.
Natural talent? Yes. Professional attitude? No. _________________ There are 10 types of people in this world, those that understand binary and those that don't. |
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mattdally
Joined: 21 Feb 2003 Location: Melbourne, Victoria, Australia
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Can't comment re his attitude or ability to follow instructions but he can find the ball.
Playing midfield for the Frankston Dolphins - maybe he is over his hamstring issues? |
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themonk
Joined: 02 Mar 2004
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Post subject: Re: Nathan Freeman | |
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mattdally wrote: | Would we consider mid season draft?
His numbers in the VFL this season so far:
Round 1 - 28 kicks, 13 handballs, 2 marks, 3 tackles
Round 2 - 29 kicks, 13 handballs, 8 marks, 1 tackle |
He & his parents blame us for his injuries, he wants nothing to do with us.
Next! |
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Dark Beanie
Joined: 06 Feb 2004 Location: A galaxy far, far away.
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They also weren't happy with St Kilda.
He is another player who is better suited to the lower leagues. Notwithstanding his injuries, you need to work hard & be able to cope with the pressures of AFL football (on and off the field).
Look at Tom Boyd - paid heaps of $, won a premiership with the Dogs but he views that period as the worst of his life. He is happy now playing for St Kevs in the VAFA. _________________ If you are foolish enough to be contented, don't show it, but just grumble with the rest. - Jerome K Jerome |
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WhyPhilWhy?
WhyPhilWhy?
Joined: 09 Oct 2001 Location: Location: Location:
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Morgan Freeman more likely... |
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Pies2016
Joined: 12 Sep 2014
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Having coached Nathan as a junior ( Dingley ) lived around the corner from him and have a son who is good mates with him, I’m probably in a better position than most to form an opinion.
Nathan’s had his obvious setbacks at AFL level and also an of-field distraction that shifted his focus for a while. My son tells me he is back enjoying footy and is happy just to have some clear air once again.
He was another victim of the early draft pick curse. He shouldn’t have been pick 10 but I’m guessing we were seduced by his pace. Salem was his teammate at the dragons and went one pick before him but was twice the player Nathan was. That’s not a knock on Nathan and if not for the injury, he would have certainly played more senior footy.
And yes, the story about his parents ( father specifically ) is true.
Whether right or wrong, they believed Collingwoods injury management wasn’t good enough and advised the club they would be looking to further his career elsewhere.
Given that Nathan is once again happy doing what he is currently doing, I would hope he chooses to steer the same course for a while to come. |
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K
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WhyPhilWhy? wrote: | Morgan Freeman more likely... |
New board member? |
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Presti35
Dick Lee for Legend Status
Joined: 05 Oct 2001 Location: London, England
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Is his old man they type to always find someone else to blame? I see that daily in my job. _________________ A Goal Saved Is 2 Goals Earned! |
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Pies2016
Joined: 12 Sep 2014
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Presti35 wrote: | Is his old man they type to always find someone else to blame? I see that daily in my job. |
Alpha male who lived his life through his son. It doesn’t help that Nathan never had a soft tissue injury before we drafted him. |
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K
Joined: 09 Sep 2011
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They could also point to Collingwood's catastrophic injury management in the last decade. |
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PyreneesPie
PyreneesPie
Joined: 22 Aug 2014
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Pies2016 wrote: | Having coached Nathan as a junior ( Dingley ) lived around the corner from him and have a son who is good mates with him, I’m probably in a better position than most to form an opinion.
Nathan’s had his obvious setbacks at AFL level and also an of-field distraction that shifted his focus for a while. My son tells me he is back enjoying footy and is happy just to have some clear air once again.
He was another victim of the early draft pick curse. He shouldn’t have been pick 10 but I’m guessing we were seduced by his pace. Salem was his teammate at the dragons and went one pick before him but was twice the player Nathan was. That’s not a knock on Nathan and if not for the injury, he would have certainly played more senior footy.
And yes, the story about his parents ( father specifically ) is true.
Whether right or wrong, they believed Collingwoods injury management wasn’t good enough and advised the club they would be looking to further his career elsewhere.
Given that Nathan is once again happy doing what he is currently doing, I would hope he chooses to steer the same course for a while to come. |
Thanks for that insight Pies2016.
It was quite devastating as a supporter to watch Nathan struggle with those hamstring injuries. Similarly, watching Schazz suffer all those ACLs. It's good to hear that Nathan is enjoying playing football again and demonstrating this with his form. (Hope it's also the case for Schazz). |
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Joined: 05 May 2010
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mattdally wrote: | Can't comment re his attitude or ability to follow instructions but he can find the ball.
Playing midfield for the Frankston Dolphins - maybe he is over his hamstring issues? |
There are a lot of players who are too good for VFL but no good in the big time!! _________________ Ohhh, the Premiership's a cakewalk ....... |
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Raw Hammer
Joined: 11 Sep 2008 Location: The Gutter
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Saw him live this season. His disposals (kicking) is not what we want. First and only time I’ve ever seen him play live...and I’m not sure what our recruiters saw in him other than speed. His skill set is severely by-the-numbers. He’s a great VFL player, clearly, no shame in that, but his disposal deficiencies would have always prevented him from a sustainable AFL career in the modern climate. _________________ Est. 2002 |
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