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stui magpie
Prepare for the worst, hope for the best.
Joined: 03 May 2005 Location: In flagrante delicto
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Basically if you have a job, you're employer is open and requires you to do your job and you can't do it from home, you're an essential worker for this purpose.
I predict there's going to be some angst and backlash against those groups that will be perceived to have caused this, particularly from retail and hospitality small business. _________________ Every dead body on Mt Everest was once a highly motivated person, so maybe just calm the **** down. |
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K
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Sicks Bux wrote: | Lock us up, lock us up, lock us up!
But seriously, ... |
Lock us down, not up.
think positive wrote: | judging by the multi posts, webmasters are essential! |
HAL is immune to the coronavirus. |
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Jezza
2023 PREMIERS!
Joined: 05 Sep 2010 Location: Ponsford End
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Victoria
Confirmed Cases:
- 1). Hume = 276
- 2). Brimbank = 186
- 3). Melbourne = 185
- 4). Wyndham = 171
- 5). Moreland = 136
- 6). Casey = 125
- 7). Moonee Valley = 120
- 8]. Stonnington = 106
- 9). Banyule = 104
- 10). Whittlesea = 89
Active Cases:
- 1). Hume = 145
- 2). Wyndham = 105
- 3). Melbourne = 97
- 4). Brimbank = 77
- 5). Moonee Valley = 50
- 6). Moreland = 38
- 7). Whittlesea = 36
- 8]. Maribyrnong = 21
- 9). Casey = 20
- 10). Melton = 20 _________________ | 1902 | 1903 | 1910 | 1917 | 1919 | 1927 | 1928 | 1929 | 1930 | 1935 | 1936 | 1953 | 1958 | 1990 | 2010 | 2023 | |
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Sicks Bux
Hal 2003-2019
Joined: 30 Jun 2020 Location: Me Island Ome
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A Statement from the Australian Services Union:
Statement on Public Housing lockdown
Community sector workers hold a wealth of expertise supporting and working with those most vulnerable in our communities. They are social and community workers with expertise in mental health, family violence, alcohol and other drug, aged care, migrant and refugee, children’s support and more. This meeting of ASU members condemns the law and order response put in place at the North Melbourne and Flemington high rises, versus a health and social services response.
The experience of community sector workers is that a police presence hinders rather than helps effective community work responses, creating fear, distrust and a barrier to seeking support and services. A hard job is made even harder for ASU members doing their job when clients don’t trust police.
They are less likely to engage and it should be professional and skilled community workers, in conjunction with nurses and infection control workers who are already working in these communities that continue to do so.
This meeting of ASU members demands:
1. No to racism, and yes to a culturally sensitive healthcare response, not a policing response
2. Free hand sanitizer, PPE and supplies to all public housing with communal facilities and amenities
3. Police off the estates – lockdowns are a health issue not a criminal issue
4. Support for residents to be in stage four lockdown instead of a hard lockdown
5. Mass testing with test results returned in 24 hrs
6. Job guarantees and paid Covid-19 leave for all residents
7. Extend the rent-freeze for public housing residents
8. State government guarantee to improve and expand current public housing stock
9. Improved maintenance of amenities and facilities (ie lifts, laundry facilities etc)
10. Improved cleanliness of shared facilities and amenities at the flats including ongoing deep cleaning in line with
sanitising to prevent spread of virus. (ie laundry, lift, rubbish chutes, stairwells)
11. Improved consultation to occur with the ASU, community leaders and professionals – before change happens
12. Accessible messages through: community languages, age appropriate for children, translators, wifi, mobiles etc
13. The right person providing the right services (not volunteers, professional staff to be trained and briefed)
14. Condemnation of the punitive response of putting hundreds of police in the flats with no warning. ASU members
report this to be extremely re-traumatising and inappropriate considering some instances of proven police violence
with the communities living there.
15. Urgent provision of supplies for alcohol and other drug withdrawal, and provision of pharmacotherapy supports
16. Appropriate family violence perpetrator intervention – integrated with risk assessments by Family Violence
professionals.
17. Solidarity and support with residents current demands, and acknowledge the extremely negative impact of policing -who are often perpetrators of violence. |
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watt price tully
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^ what a load of backslapping sanctimonious codswallop FFS 🙄
This is not an either or situation. Health and Mental Health, Centrelink, social welfare, drug and alcohol are in place as is food but you need the police front and square all the time and it would be stupid and naive to do it without police.
A health response and not a police response: spare me.
There was no time to wait till a committee is voted on and the allied health staff decide what time to have their morning tea break 🙄 _________________ “I even went as far as becoming a Southern Baptist until I realised they didn’t keep ‘em under long enough” Kinky Friedman |
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K
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The U.S. Is Repeating Its Deadliest Pandemic Mistake
More than 40 percent of all coronavirus deaths in America have been in nursing homes. ...
https://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2020/07/us-repeating-deadliest-pandemic-mistake-nursing-home-deaths/613855/
"Nursing-home covid-19 deaths may seem inevitable, given that their elderly residents live cooped up together. But according to interviews with nearly a dozen nursing-home experts, it didn’t have to be this way. Worldwide, entire cities and individual nursing homes have remained coronavirus-free.
Take Hong Kong, population 7.5 million, which has reported no deaths from COVID-19 in its care homes. The city was scarred by the outbreak of severe acute respiratory syndrome, or SARS, in 2003, during which it suffered nearly 300 deaths, or almost 40 percent of the global death toll. Nursing-home residents were more likely than the general public to get SARS, and 78 percent of residents who got the virus died from it, according to Terry Lum, the head of the department of social work and social administration at the University of Hong Kong. “We also had a few doctors and nurses get killed by SARS,” Lum told me. “Those are painful to watch. We didn’t want to see that ever again.”
Immediately after the 2003 outbreak, the Hong Kong government launched a revamped policy of infectious-disease control that required nursing homes to have a designated, government-trained infection-control officer, according to Lum. All nursing homes had to maintain at least a month’s supply of face masks and other PPE.
As soon as COVID-19 broke out in Hong Kong, in January of this year, its nursing homes halted nonurgent hospital trips among residents as well as family visitation, Lum said. Nursing-home staffers donned masks as they cared for the residents. Any nursing-home residents who caught COVID-19 were isolated in hospital coronavirus wards—not in nursing homes—until they had tested negative for the virus at least twice.
There was a human cost to the lack of family visits, Lum told me; patients who had dementia deteriorated more quickly without social interaction. But nursing-home administrators were certain that if even one COVID-19 case snuck into a nursing home, it would spark a conflagration with tragic results." |
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stui magpie
Prepare for the worst, hope for the best.
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watt price tully wrote: | ^ what a load of backslapping sanctimonious codswallop FFS 🙄
This is not an either or situation. Health and Mental Health, Centrelink, social welfare, drug and alcohol are in place as is food but you need the police front and square all the time and it would be stupid and naive to do it without police.
A health response and not a police response: spare me.
There was no time to wait till a committee is voted on and the allied health staff decide what time to have their morning tea break 🙄 |
Thank you. I considered posting similar but couldn't be stuffed defending myself against accusations of being a Union basher so I didn't bother. _________________ Every dead body on Mt Everest was once a highly motivated person, so maybe just calm the **** down. |
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think positive
Side By Side
Joined: 30 Jun 2005 Location: somewhere
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watt price tully wrote: | ^ what a load of backslapping sanctimonious codswallop FFS 🙄
This is not an either or situation. Health and Mental Health, Centrelink, social welfare, drug and alcohol are in place as is food but you need the police front and square all the time and it would be stupid and naive to do it without police.
A health response and not a police response: spare me.
There was no time to wait till a committee is voted on and the allied health staff decide what time to have their morning tea break 🙄 |
yes from what my sister said last night, (she had been there far longer than a normal shift) its essential, because people were trying to leave left right and centre, even with the police presence'
"16. Appropriate family violence perpetrator intervention – integrated with risk assessments by Family Violence
professionals. - my sister has special training in this policing, she was onsite with some of her team.
17. Solidarity and support with residents current demands, and acknowledge the extremely negative impact of policing -who are often perpetrators of violence.' - $$%^%%$ bullshit! DO NOT acknowledge that, its not true
so so important to have social workers around too, but they need police backup _________________ You cant fix stupid, turns out you cant quarantine it either! |
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think positive
Side By Side
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Jezza wrote: | Victoria
Confirmed Cases:
- 1). Hume = 276
- 2). Brimbank = 186
- 3). Melbourne = 185
- 4). Wyndham = 171
- 5). Moreland = 136
- 6). Casey = 125
- 7). Moonee Valley = 120
- 8]. Stonnington = 106
- 9). Banyule = 104
- 10). Whittlesea = 89
Active Cases:
- 1). Hume = 145
- 2). Wyndham = 105
- 3). Melbourne = 97
- 4). Brimbank = 77
- 5). Moonee Valley = 50
- 6). Moreland = 38
- 7). Whittlesea = 36
- 8]. Maribyrnong = 21
- 9). Casey = 20
- 10). Melton = 20 |
hey jezza, thanks as usual, where do you get this please? want to see if there are many in hobsons bay. cheers _________________ You cant fix stupid, turns out you cant quarantine it either! |
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K
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Jezza wrote: | We're in trouble. |
Maybe your first prediction of this thread reaching 1000 pages will come true after all!
We're almost a quarter of the way there.
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Vic. had 622 official active cases on 31 March.
It was 40 on 14 June.
It is 772 today.
https://covidlive.com.au/report/daily-active-cases/vic |
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Morrigu
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This doesn’t sound right to me
Very early in the piece our health service (public multi campus) issued face shields for all staff - they had to amend and make them voluntary as some went to their unions to complain! Masks at this time were limited to clinicians in risk areas - I think this was whilst waiting for additional stock to arrive and to stop substantial numbers of masks walking out the doors!
And last week with the postcode lockdowns they mandated that all staff clinical and non clinical must wear a Tier 1 PPE at all times in all areas of the health service - this is a surgical mask and a face shield or a surgical mask and safety googles and these are supplied and readily available. Obviously higher Tier PPE for clinicians in high risk areas. _________________ “The greatness of a nation and its moral progress can be judged by the way its animals are treated.” |
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eddiesmith
Lets get ready to Rumble
Joined: 22 Nov 2004 Location: Lexus Centre
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think positive wrote: | watt price tully wrote: | ^ what a load of backslapping sanctimonious codswallop FFS 🙄
This is not an either or situation. Health and Mental Health, Centrelink, social welfare, drug and alcohol are in place as is food but you need the police front and square all the time and it would be stupid and naive to do it without police.
A health response and not a police response: spare me.
There was no time to wait till a committee is voted on and the allied health staff decide what time to have their morning tea break 🙄 |
yes from what my sister said last night, (she had been there far longer than a normal shift) its essential, because people were trying to leave left right and centre, even with the police presence'
so so important to have social workers around too, but they need police backup |
Exactly what I was going to post, do they think a health worker is going to tackle an escapee and get bitten? Or is it more important they be allowed to roam free and spread the virus? |
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watt price tully
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My oldest in Sydney (she left Vic over 2 months ago) tells me that one of the Victorian store workers of Middle Eastern background) got engaged and had 200 f*cking guests a few weeks ago.
Hello, spaceship to planet earth. Just appalling. Could be Christian could be Muslim, but FFS all 200 and the couple need to be jailed pronto. _________________ “I even went as far as becoming a Southern Baptist until I realised they didn’t keep ‘em under long enough” Kinky Friedman |
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Morrigu
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watt price tully wrote: | ^ what a load of backslapping sanctimonious codswallop FFS 🙄
This is not an either or situation. Health and Mental Health, Centrelink, social welfare, drug and alcohol are in place as is food but you need the police front and square all the time and it would be stupid and naive to do it without police.
A health response and not a police response: spare me.
There was no time to wait till a committee is voted on and the allied health staff decide what time to have their morning tea break 🙄 |
THIS!!!!! _________________ “The greatness of a nation and its moral progress can be judged by the way its animals are treated.” |
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stui magpie
Prepare for the worst, hope for the best.
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watt price tully wrote: | My oldest in Sydney (she left Vic over 2 months ago) tells me that one of the Victorian store workers of Middle Eastern background) got engaged and had 200 f*cking guests a few weeks ago.
Hello, spaceship to planet earth. Just appalling. Could be Christian could be Muslim, but FFS all 200 and the couple need to be jailed pronto. |
This is where and why people are going to get cranky, particularly after just getting used to pubs, cafes and restaurants being open and now to close again.
Security guards rooting quarantined travelers then driving Ubers, big family parties for end of Ramadan, Islamic college outbreaks, it seems this latest outbreak is very much triggered by a specific demographic, and that's not just young people. _________________ Every dead body on Mt Everest was once a highly motivated person, so maybe just calm the **** down. |
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