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Skids
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Joined: 11 Sep 2007 Location: Joined 3/6/02 . Member #175
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Political correctness, medals for coming last and now this!?
Pathetic
Albany junior footy coach Russ Clark vows to quit after his side is penalised for winning by too much
A junior football coach in Albany says kids are being held back by political correctness and has vowed to step down after his side was penalised for winning games by too much.
On July 22, two results in the Southern Districts Junior Football Association under-13s and under-15s competitions were decided by 95 and 73 points respectively
Clark said a sporting culture of rewarding kids who didn't try and penalising successful kids was holding them back.
“If you’re in a 100m race now, you can walk it and you still get a trophy at the end of it because you didn’t try,” he said.
https://thewest.com.au/news/wa/albany-junior-footy-coach-russ-clark-vows-to-quit-after-his-side-is-penalised-for-winning-by-too-much-ng-b88558448z _________________ Don't count the days, make the days count. |
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regan is true fullback
Joined: 27 Dec 2002 Location: Granville. nsw
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we have a coach who is praised because he loses by too little... |
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courtza
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You wouldn't want kids getting hurt feelings.
We could call it the socialist football league. |
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regan is true fullback wrote: | we have a coach who is praised because he loses by too little... |
_________________ You cant fix stupid, turns out you cant quarantine it either! |
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That is ridiculous, read the whole thing. Your not allowed to win by more than 60, so why not make the margin 60? No need to call it a forfeit. But that rule is dumb anyway. The junior netball I used to coach had no such silly rules. Up to 9 and under the kids did get a season participation medal, but every game was scored, there was no ladder and they just didn't play finals. After that, it's as adults, just separated by grades. I would have thought footy was the same.
The only comment he makes I didn't like
"Clark said a sporting culture of rewarding kids who didn't try and penalising successful kids was holding them back"
That's a little judgmental. Who said they ain't trying? Maybe they just don't have the talent in that particular sport. But that's splitting hairs I know! _________________ You cant fix stupid, turns out you cant quarantine it either! |
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stui magpie
Prepare for the worst, hope for the best.
Joined: 03 May 2005 Location: In flagrante delicto
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I liked this quote
Quote: | “I wonder if they turn to kids [at school] and say, ‘Listen mate, you keep getting 10 out of 10 in maths but we need you to get three wrong next time because Johnny in the corner is getting upset.
“We don’t do that at school, we give them extension maths, but in sport we take you off the ground because you’re too good.
“I’m not a win-at-all-costs person and I don’t need it. I’ll finish this year for these kids because I owe them that, but junior footy will be looking for another coach next year.
“I said to my players last night, ‘Never apologise for doing your best’ and that’s the message I’m going to leave with them.” |
I agree with him. It's clear in the article he's moving kids around to give everyone a go and even it up, I think the whole thing is ridiculous.
Junior sport seems to be cyclical. When I was a kid playing U14'a (that was the youngest age, there was U14;s, U17's then seniors) I started at 12 and we were shit but the U17's won the flag. When I got to U17's, we were still shit, but you kept turning up to training, walking to the pickup point alone at 8am in the freezing cold to bum a lift off someone you didn't know to a game played up to 80km away, only to get flogged then do it again next week.
My son got the curse, they had a team for each year of age at the club starting with U10's and he copped the shit one with the yr level 1 below and 1 up being gun teams.
All the kids should be encouraged to do their best regardless of their level of ability, trying to knobble the good ones to make the lesser ones feel good is everything I hate.
No one is good at everything, no one is bad at everything. We should be encouraging effort, teaching kids how to work on both their weaknesses and their strengths and being honest with them. _________________ Every dead body on Mt Everest was once a highly motivated person, so maybe just calm the **** down. |
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Pies4shaw
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And then abusing them roundly when they don't measure up. |
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Pies4shaw wrote: | And then abusing them roundly when they don't measure up. |
thats the sign of a bad coach, plenty of those around sadly. _________________ You cant fix stupid, turns out you cant quarantine it either! |
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stui magpie
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Most of my sons junior coaches were pretty good, they usually had shit teams but they focused on getting the best out of the poor players and let the good ones go.
I remember 1 kid who was short and quite overweight. had to wear skins under his shorts so the thighs didn't chafe when he waddled.
Couldn't run, but learned how to use his body after the coach started playing him as a stay at home full forward. Had nice hands and a straight kick, so the coach played to his strengths, encouraged him, and the kid did good.
Play to their strengths, give each kid a role that's within their ability to achieve and it doesn't matter if they aren't superstars, they've been able to play their role in the team and can be praised for that even if they get belted. _________________ Every dead body on Mt Everest was once a highly motivated person, so maybe just calm the **** down. |
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HAL
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Yes I always have to wear skins under his shorts so the thighs didn't chafe when he waddled. |
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swoop42
Whatcha gonna do when he comes for you?
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The thing is in some country leagues you'll have sides who are always the dominant club because of a distinct population advantage and no matter how hard the kids of minnow clubs try they'll never suffer anything other than thrashings and it can't be all that much fun for them.
This happens at senior level to and if you live in a country area you'll sometimes catch an around the leagues program during an ad break and some of the margins are truly astounding and can reach 150 to 200 points. _________________ He's mad. He's bad. He's MaynHARD! |
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swoop42 wrote: | The thing is in some country leagues you'll have sides who are always the dominant club because of a distinct population advantage and no matter how hard the kids of minnow clubs try they'll never suffer anything other than thrashings and it can't be all that much fun for them.
This happens at senior level to and if you live in a country area you'll sometimes catch an around the leagues program during an ad break and some of the margins are truly astounding and can reach 150 to 200 points. |
yeah thats a fair point - but surely there is a better way? Actually i took the reins of my kids teams because our head coach used to even the teams out- so we had five or six middle road to mediocre teams instead of an A, Are, B etc. She needed help, i gave it, and then built the team resisting her input as much as possible. There is nothing wrong with a desire to win. maybe concentrate more on being a good winner, rather than throwing games. ive got stuck into more than 1 kid for show boating. not many people get through their sporting life without getting thrashed a time or two. we all know how that feels. _________________ You cant fix stupid, turns out you cant quarantine it either!
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David
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That's the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard. When I was a kid I used to play tennis against my older brother and got smashed every time because he was two years older than me. This went on for years until around the time when I was 15 and he was 17 and I finally beat him – it was pretty satisfying. But I would have been gutted if I thought that he'd thrown the game or just decided to let me win for a change; or, for that matter, if he'd been handing me the odd point in earlier games.
Kids need to be taught two things when playing sport: good sportsmanship and how to accept losing. What they don't need is to rein in their healthy competitiveness. I mean, we're not even talking about 10-year-olds here, but 14, 15, 16? A loss of more than ten goals is supposed to break them? Jesus. It's not political correctness, but it sure is bizarre.
(Also, god, if they have to have such a dumb rule, blow the whistle and end the game when a team gets ten goals in front. Call it a mercy rule. But don't make kids tank for the last quarter so they don't have to forfeit; that's just perverse.) _________________ "Every time we witness an injustice and do not act, we train our character to be passive in its presence." – Julian Assange |
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I demand a parliamentary inquiry into the insidious effects of mercy rules in junior and rural sports leagues. This is exactly the sort of soft-headedness which crept into chess leagues just prior to the collapse of the Soviet Union! _________________ In the end the rain comes down, washes clean the streets of a blue sky town.
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ronrat
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Whata teenager to do. Not go for marks etc. 3 years later he will be pinged by the AFL id he makes it but doesn't try. Imagine if the likes of Ricky Ponting had of retired at 30 until he turned 18 and never learned how to buils an innings. Or Grant Hackett stopped swimming after 300 metres because he was too far in front. Leave that stuff for the under 10s. _________________ Annoying opposition supporters since 1967. |
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