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jackcass
Joined: 01 Mar 2005 Location: Bendigo
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AN_Inkling wrote: | jackcass wrote: | themonk wrote: | richo wrote: | Steven Motlop's name is being put out there. Any takers? |
If we could get him via a Richmond/Geelong trade and we sacrifice Williams then yes. |
No, pass, and especially if it'll cost us Williams. |
Definitely yes! Without a doubt if it only cost us Williams (would surely cost more).
We call for risk taking players with X-factor and skill and then balk at them for being "flaky". If you want a skilled, dangerous, consistent player with X-factor we'd need to give up more than we have in this trade period. Motlop has all of those except consistency and would be a very good pickup. The only slight hesitation would be broad similarity to Fasolo and Elliott.
The club needs to take into account attitude and "culture" fit, but as a player I'd be very happy for us to recruit him. |
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Presti35
Dick Lee for Legend Status
Joined: 05 Oct 2001 Location: London, England
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RE: Jack Grimes:
MagpieBat wrote: | Been exiled to Casey this year in the VFL.
Per game averaged 28.5 disposals, 6 tackles, 13.2 handpass recieves, 5.6 marks and 4 Inside 50s from 17 of a possible 21 VFL outings playing predominately as an outside/wing midfielder, where he was named in the bests (such as they are) 10 times. Missed only 1 game with illness, the rest either as a carry-over emergency or through recall to the AFL.
Turns 28 in mid-May next year, with 100 games of AFL experience to his name, to go with his previous co-captaincy at Melbourne. And if looking to add an extra wrinkle or two of age and experience into our list, he would probably come the cheapest as a Delisted Free Agent compared to guys like Mayne and Wells... |
He's only been able to play more then 15 games twice in 9 seasons. What was the problem at Melbourne this year?
I too think his pay packet would not be as high as what others are asking for.
I'd like to get in on Hartlett (26) or Hanley (27) to fill a need in our back 6, especially since we don't know whats going on with Sinclair, and Marley seems to be on the outter. Frost also seems to be on the outter. Grimes could be a cheap alternative. Is he a back flank or is he more of a one on one defender?
I guess the questions are; can he tackle? can he kick? is he good under pressure?
Would he improve our team? Or, again, would he be another Jordan Russell? _________________ A Goal Saved Is 2 Goals Earned! |
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Culprit
Joined: 06 Feb 2003 Location: Port Melbourne
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richo wrote: | Steven Motlop's name is being put out there. Any takers? | He is being paid overs. Goes missing when it gets tough and the Cats are trying to make some room in the cap. Do we need a downhill skier on big bucks? No. |
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MatthewBoydFanClub
Joined: 12 Feb 2007 Location: Elwood
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Culprit wrote: | richo wrote: | Steven Motlop's name is being put out there. Any takers? | He is being paid overs. Goes missing when it gets tough and the Cats are trying to make some room in the cap. Do we need a downhill skier on big bucks? No. |
If Buckley can turn White around into becoming a good footballer, Motlop shouldn't be a problem.
Motlop has had his confidence destroyed by his inability to score goals. He tries the impossible angles, doesn't look for teammates close to goals and doesn't look where the opposition is. To turn it around he needs to go back to basics, which means sacrificing his individuality for the sake of the team. If he's willing to learn and is thinking of changing clubs, Buckley would be the ideal coach for him. |
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Presti35
Dick Lee for Legend Status
Joined: 05 Oct 2001 Location: London, England
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Culprit wrote: | richo wrote: | Steven Motlop's name is being put out there. Any takers? | He is being paid overs. Goes missing when it gets tough and the Cats are trying to make some room in the cap. Do we need a downhill skier on big bucks? No. |
Whats big bucks? Id like to know what he'd be on tbh. _________________ A Goal Saved Is 2 Goals Earned! |
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Pies4shaw
pies4shaw
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I really enjoyed watching Motlop do his impression of "Disinterested medium-forward walking against the wind" in the prelim for Geelong. Would I enjoy it if he did that for us? Not so much, I think. |
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RudeBoy
Joined: 28 Nov 2005
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AN_Inkling wrote: | jackcass wrote: | themonk wrote: | richo wrote: | Steven Motlop's name is being put out there. Any takers? |
If we could get him via a Richmond/Geelong trade and we sacrifice Williams then yes. |
No, pass, and especially if it'll cost us Williams. |
Definitely yes! Without a doubt if it only cost us Williams (would surely cost more).
We call for risk taking players with X-factor and skill and then balk at them for being "flaky". If you want a skilled, dangerous, consistent player with X-factor we'd need to give up more than we have in this trade period. Motlop has all of those except consistency and would be a very good pickup. The only slight hesitation would be broad similarity to Fasolo and Elliott.
The club needs to take into account attitude and "culture" fit, but as a player I'd be very happy for us to recruit him. |
I simply don't rate him much as a player. I'd rather go for someone like the nephew of Michael Long, who played in the Bulldogs VFL Grand final team. I just think that Bucks wants players who exert extreme defensive pressure in our forward line and Motlop is way too lazy to do that. |
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Rush Stand Wing
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He sings pretty music yet dresses up as Easy E at end of season - I'd say he has issues. |
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Cam
Nick's BB Member #166
Joined: 10 May 2002 Location: Springvale
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RudeBoy wrote: | AN_Inkling wrote: | jackcass wrote: | themonk wrote: | richo wrote: | Steven Motlop's name is being put out there. Any takers? |
If we could get him via a Richmond/Geelong trade and we sacrifice Williams then yes. |
No, pass, and especially if it'll cost us Williams. |
Definitely yes! Without a doubt if it only cost us Williams (would surely cost more).
We call for risk taking players with X-factor and skill and then balk at them for being "flaky". If you want a skilled, dangerous, consistent player with X-factor we'd need to give up more than we have in this trade period. Motlop has all of those except consistency and would be a very good pickup. The only slight hesitation would be broad similarity to Fasolo and Elliott.
The club needs to take into account attitude and "culture" fit, but as a player I'd be very happy for us to recruit him. |
I simply don't rate him much as a player. I'd rather go for someone like the nephew of Michael Long, who played in the Bulldogs VFL Grand final team. I just think that Bucks wants players who exert extreme defensive pressure in our forward line and Motlop is way too lazy to do that. |
Yes _________________ Get back on top. |
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Culprit
Joined: 06 Feb 2003 Location: Port Melbourne
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Presti35 wrote: | Culprit wrote: | richo wrote: | Steven Motlop's name is being put out there. Any takers? | He is being paid overs. Goes missing when it gets tough and the Cats are trying to make some room in the cap. Do we need a downhill skier on big bucks? No. |
Whats big bucks? Id like to know what he'd be on tbh. | Rumored to be on 600k |
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HAL
Please don't shout at me - I can't help it.
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No I don't think there are any. |
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Bucks2014
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Jack Frost on the outer, Pies can't guarantee a contract, Lions look likely. via Tom Browne 7news #gopies _________________ "Still waiting for your call Caroline ... not a quote in sight. Don't ever presume to speak on Collingwood's behalf," |
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Dave The Man
Joined: 01 Apr 2005 Location: Someville, Victoria, Australia
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Bucks proves that you can really trust the Player Movement Talk from the Media _________________ I am Da Man |
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AN_Inkling
Joined: 06 Oct 2007
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Cloke thread is locked so will put this here:
Cloke won't be at Collingwood next year, but it's not because of his kicking. His accuracy issues are hugely overstated. Since 2010 he's an average kick, not a terrible one.
His accuracy was 59.1% between 2011 and 2015. This was a great improvement on his early career accuracy of 49.5%.
He was more accurate than Buddy, and less than 1% less accurate than Reiwoldt, Roughead, Tippett and T.Walker. It's just not possible to call him a woeful kick for goal. Sure, he misses easy ones but so do many players.
I had a dream that Cloke had improved his kicking _________________ Well done boys! |
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Presti35
Dick Lee for Legend Status
Joined: 05 Oct 2001 Location: London, England
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AN_Inkling wrote: | Cloke thread is locked so will put this here |
Start a new thread mate. _________________ A Goal Saved Is 2 Goals Earned! |
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