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stoliboy Cancer



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PostPosted: Sat Jul 18, 2015 9:37 pm
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inxs88 wrote:
Toovey should be "court marshalled" for that late "slice kick" into the forward line that hit the Eagles defenders lace out and turned a Pies foray into an Eagles goal.

145 matches later and he is still masquerading as a footballer and a media darling!


Yeah, let's drop every player who stuffed a F50 entry. Reckon that might make for about 15 changes though.


And Seedsman's kick OOB when kicking out of defensive 50m.

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 18, 2015 9:44 pm
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Keeping the faith. Tonight was poor on several front and our structure was upset when we lost Cloke and were already missing Elliot.

We have had a pretty tough month and played some really good footy without winning so a flat performance was on the cards.

Just look at what the Hawks are doing to most teams at the moment and how we unsettled them a couple of weeks back and we are definitely heading in the right direction. Still think we can make finals and that will be invaluable for our younger players. They will become more consistent when they get to that 50-100 game range.

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 18, 2015 9:47 pm
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jackcass wrote:
inxs88 wrote:
Toovey should be "court marshalled" for that late "slice kick" into the forward line that hit the Eagles defenders lace out and turned a Pies foray into an Eagles goal.

145 matches later and he is still masquerading as a footballer and a media darling!


Yeah, let's drop every player who stuffed a F50 entry. Reckon that might make for about 15 changes though.

Toovey stuffs up are predictable.
In fact, you could almost set your watch by them.
He has had a horror month.
Which means - It is time to go Toovs!
Come on down J Marsh!!!

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 18, 2015 9:47 pm
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Johnno75 wrote:
Keeping the faith. Tonight was poor on several front and our structure was upset when we lost Cloke and were already missing Elliot.

We have had a pretty tough month and played some really good footy without winning so a flat performance was on the cards.

Just look at what the Hawks are doing to most teams at the moment and how we unsettled them a couple of weeks back and we are definitely heading in the right direction. Still think we can make finals and that will be invaluable for our younger players. They will become more consistent when they get to that 50-100 game range.
That is very soon.
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 18, 2015 9:48 pm
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stoliboy wrote:
jackcass wrote:
inxs88 wrote:
Toovey should be "court marshalled" for that late "slice kick" into the forward line that hit the Eagles defenders lace out and turned a Pies foray into an Eagles goal.

145 matches later and he is still masquerading as a footballer and a media darling!


Yeah, let's drop every player who stuffed a F50 entry. Reckon that might make for about 15 changes though.


And Seedsman's kick OOB when kicking out of defensive 50m.


He was not Robonison Crusoe in doing that. Someone mentioned earlier this week that Etihad is as long as the 'G but significantly narrower, and i think the game plan of "play wide to go round the web" was misconceived in light of that fact. Whether it'd have worked on the MCG is debatable, but we clearly didn't have the skills to execute it on the slivers of ground available at Etihad.

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 18, 2015 9:54 pm
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Disappointing but not upset. A few changes, Elliot out. Cloke getting injured early and we all knew we were going to struggle and the scoreboard reflected that. Where to from here? Keep playing the kids and we finish where we finish. We are close but not good enough at the moment.

Bring Moore in next week for Cloke.
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 18, 2015 9:54 pm
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How many times did we kick it out on the full tonight?It must have been a world record,surely?

I had a feeling we would lose tonight because of all of the outs,and playing at Etihad,which is a ground we clearly don't like playing on.We can hide our lack of skills at the M.C.G where it's wet and slippery,but you can't get away with that at Etihad becuase the conditions are always perfect there.

The loss of Cloke is going to be huge for us,because our forward line has no structure without him.I think we're going to struggle from now on,and will probably miss the 8.

It won't be a disaster,because it will give us a good chance to take a good hard look at our list.There were several players who played tonight who are clearly not up to A.F.L standard and need to be moved on.


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it is going to be difficult to win the Grannie this year if we don't win a few more.

I hope Trav is OK.

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 18, 2015 9:55 pm
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Some thought...

Good to have Wiiliams back, battled with Varcoe for our best. Whole defense did a pretty good job given the midfield supply.

Greenwood showed a bit and will be better for the run.

Seedsman and Kennedy didn't have much of an impact, hopefully they'll be better for the run.

Didn't notice Maynard. Don't know if that's a good thing or a bad thing.

Sidey easily the most frustrating player on our list. Does so much great work but counter balances that with way too many face-palm moments.

White kept throwing himself into contests forcing the ball to ground. Be nice if he could clunk a few of those marks.

24-8 free kick count, don't get used to it.

The Weagles midfield gives an insight into what we can hopefully expect as our kids gain experience.

Nic-Nat is a freak. Thought Wittsy had a pretty good game in spite of that. Grundy had a horror start but got better as the game went on.

De Goey continues to improve. Crispy to.

See who puts their hand up tomorrow, could be a couple of changes.
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 18, 2015 9:55 pm
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Kwah-LeBaire wrote:
Well, that was disappointing. All I'm waiting for now is the Hiss & The Rolling Heads show.


Ok so what's your solution ? Big keyboard hero with cheap shots from arse wipe city SA.

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jackcass Cancer



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PostPosted: Sat Jul 18, 2015 9:59 pm
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Museman wrote:

Inane empty comment, to the previous thought out post....wasted bandwidth.


Shucks thanks
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 18, 2015 10:04 pm
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Make Marley Williams the next captain.
Play him in the midfield as much as possible.
Langdon and Frost and Marley are the only ones drafted
to improve of late.

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 18, 2015 10:08 pm
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thompsoc wrote:
Make Marley Williams the next captain.
Play him in the midfield as much as possible.
Langdon and Frost and Marley are the only ones drafted
to improve of late.


De Goey's going all right, and will get better

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 18, 2015 10:08 pm
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Marsh has question marks over his kicking so should be a like for like replacement for Seedsman

Didnt think our rucks were that bad when they went forward didnt do enough. The delivery was shit. At least they got some more game time

Greenwood was so so but was his first game for yonks and will improve
Toovey was poor Marley was mostly very good Sidey 37 possessions
Oxley needs to spend a LOT of time in the weights room

Our backs did well considering how often and how fast the ball came in

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 18, 2015 10:09 pm
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Mugwump wrote:
stoliboy wrote:
jackcass wrote:
inxs88 wrote:
Toovey should be "court marshalled" for that late "slice kick" into the forward line that hit the Eagles defenders lace out and turned a Pies foray into an Eagles goal.

145 matches later and he is still masquerading as a footballer and a media darling!


Yeah, let's drop every player who stuffed a F50 entry. Reckon that might make for about 15 changes though.


And Seedsman's kick OOB when kicking out of defensive 50m.


He was not Robonison Crusoe in doing that. Someone mentioned earlier this week that Etihad is as long as the 'G but significantly narrower, and i think the game plan of "play wide to go round the web" was misconceived in light of that fact. Whether it'd have worked on the MCG is debatable, but we clearly didn't have the skills to execute it on the slivers of ground available at Etihad.


Not sure it had much to do with a plan to play around the web so much as a lack of contested marking options through the corridor (made worse when we lost Cloke) and poor execution spotting up an option making space wide. Wasn't keeping count but was 4-5 OOF's clearing defense.
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