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Culprit 
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| Wokko wrote: | | Tony stepping aside for some kind of manufactured 'family reasons' would have to be on the cards soon. Any transition can't look like a coup or the Gillard comparisons just continue to haunt the next PM (Who I assume will be Bishop). |
Family reasons, is that code for adultery? |
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Wokko 
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| Culprit wrote: | | Wokko wrote: | | Tony stepping aside for some kind of manufactured 'family reasons' would have to be on the cards soon. Any transition can't look like a coup or the Gillard comparisons just continue to haunt the next PM (Who I assume will be Bishop). |
Family reasons, is that code for adultery? |
Well that rumour has been around for a while anyway, but it's more code for "My party were about to sack me". Can be used interchangeably with "Health concerns".
Alternatively someone can make a play for the leadership and fail, but Tony still loses out to a third challenger who is then (a little) cleaner. |
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| He has too much ego to step aside. |
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Tannin 
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David 
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| Wokko wrote: | | Culprit wrote: | | Wokko wrote: | | Tony stepping aside for some kind of manufactured 'family reasons' would have to be on the cards soon. Any transition can't look like a coup or the Gillard comparisons just continue to haunt the next PM (Who I assume will be Bishop). |
Family reasons, is that code for adultery? |
Well that rumour has been around for a while anyway, but it's more code for "My party were about to sack me". Can be used interchangeably with "Health concerns".
Alternatively someone can make a play for the leadership and fail, but Tony still loses out to a third challenger who is then (a little) cleaner. |
I think you're overestimating how much control they have over this. My impression gained from the last government is that this stuff is completely chaotic; that there are a range of interest groups jockeying for positions of power behind the scenes at any given point in time. Throw in the 24 hour news cycle and opinion polling, and you've got a madhouse on your hands.
At this rate, I'm genuinely starting to wonder if any prime minister can last three years in office without being knifed.
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"What Good Fortune For Governments That The People Do Not Think" - Adolf Hitler.
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| stui magpie wrote: | ^
You just said that Fraser was a great leader.  
I think I need a Bex and a lie down, he was a cnut. |
I can still remember the smirk on his face when he repeated on of his sayings "Life wasn't meant to be easy". Easy for some I would suggest not not us great unwashed. |
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| Wokko wrote: | | Tony stepping aside for some kind of manufactured 'family reasons' would have to be on the cards soon. Any transition can't look like a coup or the Gillard comparisons just continue to haunt the next PM (Who I assume will be Bishop). |
Is there rally a chance of that?
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| Tannin wrote: | | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kxq__3z9zGM |
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stui magpie 
Prepare for the worst, hope for the best.
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| Member 7167 wrote: | | stui magpie wrote: | ^
You just said that Fraser was a great leader.
I think I need a Bex and a lie down, he was a cnut. |
I can still remember the smirk on his face when he repeated on of his sayings "Life wasn't meant to be easy". Easy for some I would suggest not not us great unwashed. |
I can't remember the connection but I knew family or was distantly related to the guy who wrote this song.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=arlz53X6Ge0
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Culprit
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Dumping the Co Payment has happened even though they have made it voluntary.  |
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Wokko
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| think positive wrote: |
Is there rally a chance of that? |
I would normally say No because the Libs tend to run a tight ship, but Abbott is on the nose with his own supporters and a leper to everyone else so they would 100% know that they can't win the next election with him. That's why the backbench is getting angsty with Hockey (Hockey is making Abbott look bad) and Bishop is agitating (she just had a visit to a climate conference knocked back by the PMs office, so she turned around and took it to cabinet and now she's going).
If I was a Liberal Party strategist, I'd be furiously working on an Abbott exit strategy and trying to elevate someone popular enough to contest the next election with a clean slate (Bishop or Turnbull). |
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HAL
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| Try it. |
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stui magpie
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| Wokko wrote: | | think positive wrote: |
Is there rally a chance of that? |
I would normally say No because the Libs tend to run a tight ship, but Abbott is on the nose with his own supporters and a leper to everyone else so they would 100% know that they can't win the next election with him. That's why the backbench is getting angsty with Hockey (Hockey is making Abbott look bad) and Bishop is agitating (she just had a visit to a climate conference knocked back by the PMs office, so she turned around and took it to cabinet and now she's going).
If I was a Liberal Party strategist, I'd be furiously working on an Abbott exit strategy and trying to elevate someone popular enough to contest the next election with a clean slate (Bishop or Turnbull). |
Enter the balancing act.
On one hand, who is going to be popular enough with the people to get elected?
On the other hand, who has got leadership and vision and will make a good PM.
Unfortunately these two things don't always work together as labor found out with Krudd. Being a good opposition leader doesn't mean you can do the PM's gig.
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Culprit
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| Turnbull is the answer but the Right Wingers won't want him in. |
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David
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^ Yeah, I'd be very surprised if Turnbull got back in (albeit pleasantlyas much as some here despise him for what he did to the NBN, he could send the Liberal Party in a much more socially progressive direction and that's good for Australian politics in general). Bishop seems to be the obvious choice right now. She's an old fashioned nasty large-l Liberal minus the fringe nuttery of Abbott and co.
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