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John Wren 
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Joined: 15 Jul 2007
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| woftam wrote: | | John Wren wrote: | | in 2014, ranked 7th in total clangers and 9th in average clangers per game. |
Ahhh - So he must be the 7th or perhaps 9th worst player in the league?
Stevie J is #1 - What a hack.  Cotchin @ 3 - trade him
Beams last full season he won a Copeland. I think he has some runs on the board JW. I reckon he is a gun. |
never said he wasn't a gun but just saying he does tend to butcher it. it is more noticeable with the better players because you expect better from them.
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Albert Parker
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| AN_Inkling wrote: | ^^Not close was probably overstating it  . Would have had him about 7th or 8th. He had quite a good game, but we had a lot of good players. For the record, I'd have had (and note that I weight first half performance greater than second half, given the game was just about decided by then):
1. Sidebottom
2. Lumumba
3. Cloche
4. Pendles
5. Swan
6. Fas
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Would you care to reconsider your response Mr Inkling?
I refer to your Gavin Brown votes from the weekend
5. Sidebottom
4. Fasolo
3. Swan
2. Cloke
1. Lumumba
Reinventing history like that……you're such a Buckley kiss arse 
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AN_Inkling
Joined: 06 Oct 2007
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| woftam wrote: | | AN_Inkling wrote: | | woftam wrote: |
Ink has never rated Beams anywhere near as high as we do. For no other reason it seems other than he isn't one of his favourites. Ink & I have had many little run ins with regards to this over time. |
^^This isn't true. I only didn't rate him early in his career . Now he's definitely a quality player. Saturday wasn't one of his best though, without the goals it would have been a fairly ordinary day in comparison to the rest of the team. |
I know Inky - I was kind of having a lend of you. I remember the debate well. |
No offense taken either way .
And the player that I forgot who'd challenge Beams for 7th, is Elliott. Most impressively, he equaled Pendles for our most contested possessions with 11. Becoming a far more rounded player this season.
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Donny 
Formerly known as MAGFAN8.
Joined: 04 Aug 2002
Location: Toonumbar NSW Australia
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Likely to pull votes, so far.
Pies/Dons: Swanny 10, Sidey, Beamer & Pendles probable minor votes.
Saints/Lions: Montagna possible 10. Hayes, Zorko up there.
Roos/Freo: Gibson, Harvey, Mundy, Fyfe likely vote earners.
Suns/Giants: Ablett, O'meara, Lynch for the Suns. Ward could get minor votes.
Blues/Weagles: Murphy possible 10. Gibbs and Priddis will vote.
Swans/Dees: Racer likely to be in the votes, along with N Jones, Hannebery and M Jones.
Crows/Dogs: Dangerfield likely 10. Libba and Boyd will get minors.
If votes go something like that, the leaders will be:
38 Gary Ablett (Gold Coast) - 8 votes
34 Joel Selwood (Geelong) - yet to play
30 Nathan Jones (Melbourne) - 8 votes
30 Nick Riewoldt (St Kilda) - 0
27 Steve Johnson (Geelong) - yet to play
26 Scott Pendlebury - 4 votes
23 Trent Cotchin (Richmond) - playing
23 Ben Cunnington (North Melbourne) - 3 votes
20 Brendon Goddard (Essendon) - didn't play
19 Brad Ebert (Port Adelaide) - yet to play
19 Scott Thompson (North Melbourne) - didn't play
16 Dayne Beams - 6 votes
16 Steele Sidebottom - 8 votes.
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AN_Inkling
Joined: 06 Oct 2007
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| Albert Parker wrote: | | AN_Inkling wrote: | ^^Not close was probably overstating it . Would have had him about 7th or 8th. He had quite a good game, but we had a lot of good players. For the record, I'd have had (and note that I weight first half performance greater than second half, given the game was just about decided by then):
1. Sidebottom
2. Lumumba
3. Cloche
4. Pendles
5. Swan
6. Fas
7. Beams |
Would you care to reconsider your response Mr Inkling?
I refer to your Gavin Brown votes from the weekend
5. Sidebottom
4. Fasolo
3. Swan
2. Cloke
1. Lumumba
Reinventing history like that……you're such a Buckley kiss arse |
I had changed my mind on Fasolo almost as soon as I posted my votes. Over rated his game based on excitement of seeing him play so well. The ordering of the 4 behind Sidebottom is all quite close, but I felt Herry was too low in my original after watching the replay.
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Donny
Formerly known as MAGFAN8.
Joined: 04 Aug 2002
Location: Toonumbar NSW Australia
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Mitchell likely to get the 10 against Richmond although a Rioli max wouldn't surprise.
38 Gary Ablett (Gold Coast) - 8 votes
34 Joel Selwood (Geelong) - playing
30 Nathan Jones (Melbourne) - 8 votes
30 Nick Riewoldt (St Kilda) - 0
20 Sam Mitchell (Hawthorn) - 10 votes
27 Steve Johnson (Geelong) - playing
26 Scott Pendlebury - 4 votes
23 Trent Cotchin (Richmond) - 0
23 Ben Cunnington (North Melbourne) - 3 votes
20 Brendon Goddard (Essendon) - didn't play
19 Brad Ebert (Port Adelaide) - playing
19 Scott Thompson (North Melbourne) - didn't play
16 Dayne Beams - 6 votes
16 Steele Sidebottom - 8 votes.
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Donny
Formerly known as MAGFAN8.
Joined: 04 Aug 2002
Location: Toonumbar NSW Australia
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Boak could get the 10 for PA but Hartlett, Cornes and Ebert were all thereabouts. Johnson may pick up a couple of votes.
38 Gary Ablett (Gold Coast) - 8 votes.
34 Joel Selwood (Geelong) - 0.
30 Nathan Jones (Melbourne) - 8 votes.
30 Nick Riewoldt (St Kilda) - 0.
29 Steve Johnson (Geelong) - 2 votes.
26 Scott Pendlebury - 4 votes.
25 Brad Ebert (Port Adelaide) - 6 votes.
23 Trent Cotchin (Richmond) - 0.
23 Ben Cunnington (North Melbourne) - 3 votes.
20 Brendon Goddard (Essendon) - didn't play.
20 Sam Mitchell (Hawthorn) - 10 votes.
19 Scott Thompson (North Melbourne) - didn't play.
16 Dayne Beams - 6 votes.
16 Steele Sidebottom - 8 votes.
13 Heritier Lumumba - 0.
10 Dane Swan - 10 votes.
10 Travis Boak (Port Adelaide) - 10 votes.
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Mugwump
Joined: 28 Jul 2007
Location: Between London and Melbourne
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| AN_Inkling wrote: | | I had changed my mind on Fasolo almost as soon as I posted my votes. Over rated his game based on excitement of seeing him play so well. The ordering of the 4 behind Sidebottom is all quite close, but I felt Herry was too low in my original after watching the replay. |
Yep, posting just after a victory is like posting while drunk, I think - on sober reflection aftre watching the replay, I looked at my votes with horror... I had Sidebottom fifth with one vote, because I felt he went quiet in the second half. At least I have a new entry in the "I was wrong" thread. ...
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Donny
Formerly known as MAGFAN8.
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Location: Toonumbar NSW Australia
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v. Essendon.
10 Swan (Coll)
8 Sidebottom (Coll)
4 Beams (Coll)
3 Heppell (Ess)
3 Pendlebury (Coll)
2 Stanton (Ess)
Leaders.
40 Gary Ablett (Gold Coast)
34 Joel Selwood (Geelong)
30 Nick Riewoldt (St Kilda)
27 Steve Johnson (Geelong)
25 Scott Pendlebury
24 Nathan Fyfe (Fremantle)
23 Travis Boak (Port Adelaide), Trent Cotchin (Richmond), Nathan Jones (Melbourne)
22 Sam Mitchell (Hawthorn), Matthew Priddis (West Coast), Cyril Rioli (Hawthorn)
16 Steele Sidebottom, Dayne Beams
13 Heritier Lumumba
10 Dane Swan
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Donny
Formerly known as MAGFAN8.
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Pies.
25 Pendles
16 Sidey, Beamer
13 Harry
10 Swanny
8 Trav
7 Caff
6 Elliott
5 Frost
4 Ball
3 Sinkers
2 Maxy
1 White
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AN_Inkling
Joined: 06 Oct 2007
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Sidebottom: second most votes for a Collingwood player after finishing third in the Copeland last year. For such a quality player, he attracts more than his fair share of negative comments around here.
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Pies4shaw 
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| ^^^ Yep - I was just formulating a similar comment - there he is, just behind the Captain, alongside the 2012 Copeland winner, just ahead of an AA backman, a Brownlow (and dual Anzac Day) medallist and an AA CHF. |
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Donny
Formerly known as MAGFAN8.
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Likely to get votes, amongst the leaders.
40 Gary Ablett (Gold Coast) - Possible 6
34 Joel Selwood (Geelong) - Maybe 2
30 Nick Riewoldt (St Kilda) - 0
27 Steve Johnson (Geelong) - Possible 10
25 Scott Pendlebury - Possible 4
24 Nathan Fyfe (Fremantle) - Possible 4
23 Travis Boak (Port Adelaide) - 0, Trent Cotchin (Richmond) - Possible 2, Nathan Jones (Melbourne) - 0
22 Sam Mitchell (Hawthorn) - 0, Matthew Priddis (West Coast) - 0, Cyril Rioli (Hawthorn) - Possible 6
16 Steele Sidebottom - 0
16 Dayne Beams - Possible 6
13 Heritier Lumumba - 0
10 Dane Swan - Possible 2
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Donny
Formerly known as MAGFAN8.
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Still awaiting the Round 7 update from the AFL Coaches Association
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thebaldfacts
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Pendles gets the gong from beams and Langdon.
Most had Langdon down for best. |
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