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Joel 
Joined: 23 Mar 1999
Location: Mornington Peninsula
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| member34258 wrote: | | I assume then that all Liberal voters will not vote Liberal this Federal Election as there is no way that Howard will see out another term even if he is returned. |
Well, I'm sure if people know Costello is going to take over they will/would vote differently. |
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EBB
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| Joel wrote: | | member34258 wrote: | | I assume then that all Liberal voters will not vote Liberal this Federal Election as there is no way that Howard will see out another term even if he is returned. |
Well, I'm sure if people know Costello is going to take over they will/would vote differently. |
So Joel, your saying the Liberal party are no good without Howard?
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HAL
Please don't shout at me - I can't help it.
Joined: 17 Mar 2003
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Morrigu
Joined: 11 Aug 2001
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| Shane Whelan wrote: | | Morrigu wrote: | Well I wish him and JT all the best in whatever they do in the future
Having worked in the public health system for many many years I am very happy with what he and his government have achieved given what that f&**)* knob Kennett did to the system and to those of us who work it in
Yep it is still far from perfect but many well trained and experienced clinicians have returned following the change of government and it is 1000% times better than it was
I'm happy with Brumby - but then I would be happy with anyone who wasn't a member of the Liberal party  |
Interesting that the nurses went on strike against a Labour government due to Labor's and David White's ineptitude. |
Quite true and I was one of them under Irene Bolger's leadership - on strike and fronted up every day at RMH out of uniform and worked 10 hrs a day for the entire time
That however was more related to professional standards, pay scales and patient ratios
What that fwit Kennett and his mob did was far more destructive and caused some of the best health professionals to leave the public system - slowly many have returned thankfully
Just a personal opinion - funnily enough my bro is a cop and he and his mates seems to share the same opinion
Each to their own I suppose eh
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Joel
Joined: 23 Mar 1999
Location: Mornington Peninsula
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| EBB wrote: | | So Joel, your saying the Liberal party are no good without Howard? |
Errr, no. Where did I say that?
Some people would vote differently, that's all. |
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EBB
Joined: 26 Apr 2007
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| Joel wrote: | | EBB wrote: | | So Joel, your saying the Liberal party are no good without Howard? |
Errr, no. Where did I say that?
Some people would vote differently, that's all. |
Errr OK, why is that?
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Joel
Joined: 23 Mar 1999
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| ...because some people are leaders, and others just aren't. |
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EBB
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| Joel wrote: | | ...because some people are leaders, and others just aren't. |
So your saying that John Howard is the man and everyone else that works with him is possibly USELESS!
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Joel
Joined: 23 Mar 1999
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| No. It was an example. It is not my viewpoint, BUT it could possibly be the viewpoint of others. |
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EBB
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| Joel wrote: | | No. It was an example. It is not my viewpoint, BUT it could possibly be the viewpoint of others. |
Like yourself for example?
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Proud Pies 
Joined: 22 Feb 2003
Location: Knox-ish
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| Shane Whelan wrote: | | member34258 wrote: | | Quote: | | But it is a fraudulent misrepresentation to the people to say what you plans are for the next 4 years and then forget to tell them by the way i am quitting in 9 months. |
Sorry, but in the real world people change. Circumstances change.
With a high pressure job like Premier, that takes up your life 24/7 you may change your mind about the job very quickly.
That is just a human trait. |
I hope it is family related and not related to the corrupt pokies tender or the Thwaites free snow holidays scam. |
As said a couple of pages back, there is absolutely NOTHING sinister in this and he has resigned for family reasons.
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HAL
Please don't shout at me - I can't help it.
Joined: 17 Mar 2003
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| I lost my train of thought. By the way, do you mind if I ask you a personal question? When do you think artificial intelligence will replace lawyers? Try to determine if this is a person or a computer responding. Is that from it? |
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Proud Pies
Joined: 22 Feb 2003
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| Tess wrote: | | Fair enough, so I'm guessing you don't wanna come up to Shepparton for a UTE muster then? |
oh god Tess, ummmmmmmm No lol. Personally i couldn't think of anything worse. My nephew, who appears to be the original country hick, is into Ute Musters lol. Not sure if country hick and ute musters are related lol.
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stui magpie 
Prepare for the worst, hope for the best.
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The real ute muster is up at Deni. 
BTW, Joel, I see where you're coming from. It's an unfortunate side effect in a way. We don't have a system of voting for personalities to lead the parties, we vote for a local member. Which ever party then gets enough seats forms government and has the right to choose it's leader. We don't vote for premier or Prime Minister.
However, the people who the parties put up as leader becomes the figurehead and influences a lot of peoples votes at their local level. Will people consider their own personal opinion of John Howard before deciding on who to vote for at the next election? Of coure they will even though they aren't actually voting for (or against) him as such.
I for one prefer our system to the american system.
I am in favour of Australia becoming a republic some day but I've yet to see a system of doing that that I agree with. I like the fact that our GG is a low key largely ceremonial role despite the actual power the role holds and wouldn't like to see it become a popularly voted role with some tosser there who wants to be in the spotlight,
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~Madness~ 
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Joined: 29 May 2001
Location: Melbourne, Vic, Au
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| Proud Pies wrote: | | yes, I wish both Bracksy and Thwaites all the best in their future endeavours. I've like Bracks as a Premier and I've ALWAYS liked Brumby, not only because he IS the best Treasurer the state has had (yes, yes, IMHO!), but he's a Collingwood Supporter AND he's a bit of alright thank you very much! |
When I lived up the country, I always thought Brumby was a bit of alright too. But had no idea he was a collingwood fan back then. I think he is a very handsome man.
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