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joffa corfe
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Five pages and going very strong the ability to debate discuss and argue opinions is alive and well and so it should be the day when as a group we cant come together with different reasons and why's and should's and shouldnt's will be the day most probably when the sun wont rise.
I've enjoyed thoroughly reading everyones postings re the death penalty although im disapointed no one picked up on the drunk drivers killing other innocent people on our roads, i was looking forward to that debate but we might discuss that one further down the track.
Just like the abortion issue the death penalty issue is as just as emotional and stirs up heartfelt passion and so it should.
Infact an abortion topic i reckon would be a ripper, what ive enjoyed about this topic is it never became personal or displayed any hatred to other posters..its now moved on to God and that cant be a bad thing.
For the record i despise the death penalty its not the answer and is flawed with mistakes... the killing of one innocent victim via death penalty makes it truly the horror it really is, Its been proven time and time again that innocent people amidst the latest technology of DNA testing are facing death..as a civilised society we must not let that happen or even contemplate that happening.
I also appreciate the frustrations in our society of what is appeared to be soft sentences for hard and or distasteful crimes...and believe it or not we have many people in our community who support the tactics of solving such issues with the simplistic approach of drag em out the back and blow some brains out!
As a society we must have these type of discussions. its been great reading the reasons from others in how barbaric the death penalty really is....but would such a discussion happen if we all came on board and agreed with one another ?
Of course not!!
Do we hate Pauline Hanson personally because of her brand of politics ?
Do we hate the murderer more because the murder was more horrific ?
all intersting discussion points...recently i watched a doco featuring life on death row in an American jail ( where else ) it was appalling and very sad and to think we have the capabilities of forcing such sanctions against a fellow human being is pretty much bewildering.
I must be ageing because in such debates i love coming in from the other corner...the only dissapointment has been i reckon such issues should be debated in the open and more often.
Looking foward greatly to see where this topic heads 
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joffa corfe
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| nuxta wrote: | | I haven't met you either Dale but I believe you exist, and Ive only learned about you on a web site. |
Dale = nice person
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| That input matched my default category. Does everyone learn about you on a website? |
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| Dale61 wrote: | A 22-yo Indian exchange student has been arrested. He has only been in the country for less than 12 months, and police got him while he was working at his part-time job at a Clayton supermarket.
Now, they'll revoke his student visa, and thus, making him ineligible to remain in the country so he'll have to be deported without doing time.
At least now he won't qualify for employment at a Telstra Call Centre ...... or will he? |
Mohammed Khan doesn't sound all that Indian to me.
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Dale61
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| joffa corfe wrote: | | nuxta wrote: | | I haven't met you either Dale but I believe you exist, and Ive only learned about you on a web site. |
Dale = nice person |
Thx Joff, and there are a few more Nicksters that have met me as well, so I well and truly exist.
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Dale61
You can't have manslaughter without laughter.
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PP, I only posted what was reported on the news at the time.
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| David wrote: | | It's not really a contradiction, as the Torah clearly sanctions capital punishment, and for many different crimes. I assume that the commandment only refers to murder committed by the individual. Krzystof Kieslowski's masterpiece A Short Film About Killing deals specifically with this commandment, arguing that the two are essentially the same in the long run, although I still believe there is an important distinction between state-sanctioned execution and murder. |
I meant it as a throw away line David, but you've raised an interesting argument. Catholicism based on latin translations of the bible use thou shalt not kill, where many more modern protestant translations and the torah use thou shalt not murder. In a contextual sense you're probably right, murder makes more sense. (now there's a sentence you don't use everyday!)
Interesting diuscussion at
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ten_Commandments#Killing_or_murder[url]
although all the usual risks of wikepedia apply.[/url] |
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sherrife 
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Joffa:
What do you mean you're against the death penalty?
Are there two people using your account? Because its quite clear earlier on that you're all for it?
PP:
There are something like 200 million muslims living in india.
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magpiesgirl 
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| Dale61 wrote: | A 22-yo Indian exchange student has been arrested. He has only been in the country for less than 12 months, and police got him while he was working at his part-time job at a Clayton supermarket.
Now, they'll revoke his student visa, and thus, making him ineligible to remain in the country so he'll have to be deported without doing time.
At least now he won't qualify for employment at a Telstra Call Centre ...... or will he? |
I know for a fact his position at the Clayton supermarket has been terminated.A friend of mine is the office manager there and told me about it last night.
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| Dale61 wrote: | | PP, I only posted what was reported on the news at the time. |
They are saying he's an Indian National, i'm just saying his name doesn't sound anything like all the Indians i work with.
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Pa Marmo
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What about the great indian cricketer, Majid Khan
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| nuxta wrote: | | What about the great indian cricketer, Majid Khan |
sorry, haven't heard of him, seriously.
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| sherrife wrote: | Joffa:
What do you mean you're against the death penalty?
Are there two people using your account? Because its quite clear earlier on that you're all for it?
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There are something like 200 million muslims living in india. |
i too was very gobsmacked by Joffa's complete turn around., but then, that's the power of debating I suppose, that with facts you can change people's minds/perception/attitude.
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Jahangir Khan, Nazir Ali, Mohammad Nissar, Wazir Ali, Dilawar Hussain, Mushtaq Ali, Gul Mohammad, Abdul Hafeez, Amir Elahi, Khanmohammed Ibrahim, Zaheer Khan, Just to name a few more who have played cricket for india that dont sound quite Indian
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eddiesmith 
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| So now we can tell everyones nationality by their name? Whats a typical Aussie name then? |
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