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Proud Pies
Joined: 22 Feb 2003 Location: Knox-ish
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Whatever happened to little Johnny saying that a family is Mum and Dad and kids, not Dad and Dad and Mum and Mum.
That's why he's always been opposed to same sex marriages/rights.
So, what's made him change his mind?
PM to review same-sex rights
http://www.news.com.au/story/0,23599,21310074-421,00.html _________________ Jacqui © Proud Pies 2003 and beyond |
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London Dave
Ješte jedna pivo prosím
Joined: 16 Dec 1998 Location: Iceland on Thames
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I think the key word there is review PP. He's probably hoping those in favour of equal rights believe 'review' means 'change the law, whilst the dog whistling to the 'moral majority' types will let them know status quo remains.Nothing will come of it, apart from perhaps a white paper that will wither on the vine.
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~Madness~
...The Cat...
Joined: 29 May 2001 Location: Melbourne, Vic, Au
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Hmmm notes that down. _________________ "whaaa whaaaaaa! |
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sherrife
Victorian Socialists - people before profit
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As if anyone will be fooled by this...
I would say it's another mistake by Howard: Long time champions of this issue will not be convinced by this token remark, and people who are anti-gay will be disgruntled.
Viva Rudd _________________ I would be ashamed to admit that I had risen from the ranks. When I rise it will be with the ranks... - Eugene Debs |
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Proud Pies
Joined: 22 Feb 2003 Location: Knox-ish
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totally agree with all above, but if we weren't having an election this year, this topic wouldn't even have been broached by Howard. _________________ Jacqui © Proud Pies 2003 and beyond |
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skaman
One step beyond.......
Joined: 01 Mar 2005 Location: Townsville via Melbourne
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Whooooa...sorry guys. Read the title of the thread wrong. Got me a bit excited! _________________ Enjoy yourself. Its later than you think! |
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Proud Pies
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hahahaha _________________ Jacqui © Proud Pies 2003 and beyond |
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bucksisgod
Joined: 21 Jul 2006 Location: Rock hard
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skaman wrote: | Whooooa...sorry guys. Read the title of the thread wrong. Got me a bit excited! |
A spontaneous election is always exciting. _________________ Need a pen? try Pen Island. www. penisland. net |
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David
I dare you to try
Joined: 27 Jul 2003 Location: Andromeda
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While it is understandable to be cynical at this sort of thing, you can also look on the optimistic side:
at least an approaching election means that politicians will start to take more notice of what the majority of Australians want.
Even though I support a lot of the Howard government's policies, I believe their views on gay rights are terribly outdated, so it is about time they made some inroads (although as London Dave suggested, it probably is nothing more than a token move). _________________ All watched over by machines of loving grace |
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member34258
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David wrote: |
at least an approaching election means that politicians will start to take more notice of what the majority of Australians want. |
Unfortunately this statement is quite untrue.
Elections are won or lost on the votes of very few Australians, the majority of Australians vote the same way every election. It is the small minority of swinging voters in marginal seats that will decide who governs us for the next four years.
Hope they have their minds on the task. |
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David
I dare you to try
Joined: 27 Jul 2003 Location: Andromeda
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Still, that does mean that both parties must attempt to 'woo' those swinging voters - and if that means committing to policies which they believe will have popular support (it is, after all, a democracy), then it could be a good thing.
And yes, I know that the popular decisions are not necessarily the right ones. _________________ All watched over by machines of loving grace |
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Joel
Joined: 23 Mar 1999 Location: Mornington Peninsula
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Bah, I'm over all of them. All of the parties are about "popularism", and to deny that is crap IMO. Rudd will probably say something similar, ie. if he becomes PM he promises to review same sex rights. But, in the end, he will do nothing - just as Howard will do nothing.
Labour voters will always bag Liberal policies, and vice versa.
What made Howard change his mind? I'd argue he hasn't changed is mind, but he's doing it to atleast be seen to be thinking about it.
Btw, if people think life under Labor is going to be some sort of utopia, or all their (or the Australian societies') ills are going to be magically solved.....well, you've got to be kidding. |
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Syd_Magpies_Girl
The Russell Street Pole Dancing Bogan
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I'm part of the gay community, not directly, but all of my close friends are gay and lesbian, and I go in the Mardi Gras with them every year. The Sydney Gay community is pretty much outraged by what he has said. Every year they have written him a letter asking for acknowledgement of the Mardi Gras etc, and last year he wrote back a very abrupt letter saying they will never receive recognision and to stop writing every year.
What he is proposed is not giving gay rights, it's just for government based purposes to help them with their own administration. It's such a load of crap.
It's time to go....
Johnnie. _________________ Insert useless signature here -----> |
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member34258
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Joel wrote: | . Btw, if people think life under Labor is going to be some sort of utopia, or all their (or the Australian societies') ills are going to be magically solved.....well, you've got to be kidding. |
I don't think anyone believes in a "utopia" from any party Joel.
But I do think that plenty believe they may have more job security and that they will have a guaranteed health care system with a Labor government.
Those are the two main factors that this election will boil down to. And on both counts Howard's record will speak for itself. |
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