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EBB
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just wondering, EBB, do you believe in the possibility of a just war?
Like World War 2, for example? |
First of David, I'm an individual with free will.
David, do you have a wrist watch, you know, your own little time machine.
What does wwII have to do with me, I wasn't even born. Should my grandfather have died in that war I wouldn't be here to answer your question.
If Australia was attacked during wwII and we didn't defend, then whatever life would be today, we would've been born into.
Also, I'm not really fond of the word "believe".
If you can't comprehend anything I've written above, then walk away. 
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David 
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Have you heard of the word 'hypothetical'?
Just because you didn't live through WW2 doesn't mean it never happened, or that a similar situation couldn't happen again. What would your response be then? That we shouldn't declare war on Nazi Germany because there is no such thing as a 'just' war? Think about it.
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EBB
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Right, so it's ok to be selective when it comes to "who should we invade today"?
No problem to declare war on Hitler, But NOT ok to declare war on Idi Amin Dada Oumee.
Hypotheticals are silly...
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bwphantom 
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War is just that WAR. Nothing just or unjust about it. In a perfect World there would be no War. And we all sleep in our beds at night not realising just what our Soldiers are doing in Iraq and Afghanistan.
Like us being there or not please show some respect for the fallen and not turn this into a circus. We all have our views and we all hope and pray that Australia will not lose another of its own. SAS are trained to fight and to put their life on the line. Channel your thoughts to his family not turn this issue into a personal soapbox.
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EBB
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| bwphantom wrote: | | War is just that WAR. |
I disagree. War is bias, selective and BIG BUSINESS. The soldiers are used as cattle. How anyone can justify war is beyond me.
Even soldiers sleep in their bed, a bed they made because someone convinced them it was the right thing to do.
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Alec. J. Hidell
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| bwphantom wrote: | War is just that WAR. Nothing just or unjust about it. In a perfect World there would be no War. And we all sleep in our beds at night not realising just what our Soldiers are doing in Iraq and Afghanistan.
Like us being there or not please show some respect for the fallen and not turn this into a circus. We all have our views and we all hope and pray that Australia will not lose another of its own. SAS are trained to fight and to put their life on the line. Channel your thoughts to his family not turn this issue into a personal soapbox. |
How do you link peoples dislike a war and the killing of people with disrespect for a dead Australian Soldier?
How is it, you think, it is you who sets the rules of this discussion?
Isn't the death of a Soldier the perfect time to discuss the issues surrounding his death?
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bwphantom
It's Better to Burn Out Than to Fade Away
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Not trying to set rules. But EBB calling people C**ts is just simply wrong.
That is all I object to. But thought I would come out in a nice way and say it instead of just in your face like now.
And I am just saying that those remarks were disrespectful and maybe look at retracting.
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EBB
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| bwphantom wrote: | Not trying to set rules. But EBB calling people C**ts is just simply wrong.
That is all I object to. But thought I would come out in a nice way and say it instead of just in your face like now.
And I am just saying that those remarks were disrespectful and maybe look at retracting. |
That was in reference to the politicians. My thoughts to them for refering to a dead soldier as "just cause". Yeah, I was offended too.
If it offended you, you could ask the mods or atleast, PM me to 'edit' said word.
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bwphantom
It's Better to Burn Out Than to Fade Away
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| EBB wrote: | | bwphantom wrote: | Not trying to set rules. But EBB calling people C**ts is just simply wrong.
That is all I object to. But thought I would come out in a nice way and say it instead of just in your face like now.
And I am just saying that those remarks were disrespectful and maybe look at retracting. |
That was in reference to the politicians. My thoughts to them for refering to a dead soldier as "just cause". Yeah, I was offended too.
If it offended you, you could ask the mods or atleast, PM me to 'edit' said word. |
I understand EBB the madness we feel when not in control. I just feel for the guy and his family. Himself and his Family knew the possibilities and I am pretty sure they are not coming out and calling Polly's C**ts. It is not the word that offends just the manner in which it was used. I agree they are every dirty word imaginable and War sucks, and why do we sacrifice good people. We may never fully understand this. All I am saying is remember what he stood for and we don't know what he believed in. He may of thought he was over there doing the right thing.
That is what makes him a Hero.
Cheers mate.
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