Scum guilty.... again.

[Dale61]

Carlton have been found guilty of yet another breach of the salary cap. This time it involves Matthew Allen.

Wonder what penalty they'll cop this time.

All that is left is for Fraser Brown to fess up and the whole truth will be uncovered.

"Racetracks are for racing, roads are for getting there."

[rand corp]

I simply cannot recall ever enjoying an off-season anywhere near as much as this one.



We were on recon in a steaming Mekong delta, a momentary lapse of concentration allowed Charlie to get the drop on us. I spent the next three years in a POW camp, forced to subsist on a thin stew of four kinds of rice. I came close to madness trying to find it here in the States, but they just cant get the spices right...

[Brown26]

If only we had won the premiership - what else could've been better!! Carlton, what can I say - thank you!!

- Ben

Pies for Premiers 2002, 3, 4, 5, 6....

[Trippy Pie]

Could this mean that for the next ten years or so they will be stuffed trying to pay off their fines, not being to run a full list due loss of draft picks for the next five seasons and of course their feral followers jumping off in droves because they can not make the eight. This ofcourse will put them in more debt and hold them back even further.
One can only dream, can't one?


COLLINGWOOD RULES no one else matters!!!!!!

[Black_White]

Allan faces deregistration
6:19:10 PM Thu 6 February, 2003
Paul Gough
afl.com.au


Carlton ruckman Matthew Allan could be deregistered for the start of the AFL season after the league charged him on Tuesday afternoon with receiving secret player payments.

Allan will face an AFL hearing on Monday February 17 to answer allegations he received payments which were not included in Carlton’s salary cap for last season.

The hearing comes just four days before the start of the Wizard Cup competition meaning if the league decides to deregister Allan he will certainly miss at least the start of the pre-season competition. The AFL could also decide to make any punishment relevant to just the home and away season.

The last time a current league player was found guilty of a similar offence to Allan was former Blues’ champion Greg Williams, who was suspended for the first five matches of the 1992 season after irregularities were found in his move from Sydney to the Blues.


However Allan’s controversial manager Dave Allison will not have to face the AFL hearing.

Allison told Channel Nine that his position in relation to being involved in any wrongdoing has not changed. "Matthew Allan has done nothing wrong. I've done nothing wrong and we will defend ourselves in the appropriate forum."

It will be the AFL Players’ Association that decides any punishment in relation to Allison – who has never been far from controversy during his time as a player manager to some of the Blues’ biggest names including Anthony Koutoufides. He could lose his player management license.

For Carlton, the timing of the AFL’s announcement could hardly be worse as the club was just beginning to put its salary cap woes of 2002 behind it.

And Blues’ officials are privately miffed that the league announcement into further salary cap breaches came as the club was doing its bit to promote the AFL message at a pre-season training camp in Alice Springs.
Under new coach Denis Pagan, the Blues are readying themselves for their first match of 2003 against an Aboriginal All-Stars team in Darwin on Saturday.

The Blues now face the prospect of another massive fine from the AFL for salary cap breaches, which will place further pressure on the embattled club’s already perilous finances.

Last November the Blues were fined almost $1 million for breaching the salary cap in relation to four players – all of whom were either already retired or are now retired -meaning that unlike Allan they could not face individual punishment from the league.

The Blues also lost their first four picks at the 2002 national draft and are already ineligible for the first two rounds of this year’s national draft.

The club, which recorded a trading loss of more than $7.5 million in 2002 as it claimed its first ever wooden spoon, now face the prospect of either more fines or loss of further draft picks which will further hinder Pagan’s hopes of quickly re-building the club.

AFL football operations manager Andrew Demetriou said the charges were laid following a probe by league investigations manager Ken Wood.

"The breach relates to undisclosed football payments for services in season 2002 to Allan,” Demetriou said.
"Player Allan will have to answer to myself, in my capacity as General Manager (Football Operations), under AFL Player Rule 1.6 for his conduct in not notifying the AFL of all Football Payments for 2002.

For Allan the news he must face an AFL charge and possible deregistration continues a nightmare past three years.

Since being named as the 1999 All-Australian ruckman, in a year in which he also finished equal third in the Brownlow Medal, Allan has battled injury after injury and was forced to take a massive paycut to remain with the club this season.

In the past two seasons Allan has played just 12 games due primarily to a foot injury and desperately needs to get as many games as possible under his belt as he attempts to resurrect his career.


Source: AFL.com

[MagpieMad]

fair dinkum these bludgers shouldn't even be allowed to be in the compition! how long have they been doing this?

quote:

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The last time a current league player was found guilty of a similar offence to Allan was former Blues’ champion Greg Williams, who was suspended for the first five matches of the 1992 season after irregularities were found in his move from Sydney to the Blues.

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offence after offence and they still get bugger all for punishment. the AFL likes to beat their chest about having a level playing field, but how can it be level when one team is so consistantly CHEATING!
they should have to forfiet their points (if they get any) for the 1'st 18 rounds of the season atleast.
then they could go back'2'back


MagpieMad
http://magpiemad.magpies.net/

[Joel]

Carlton have always been cheats and forever will be cheats.

JDF

"We've never quit, and we won't."

[Culprit]

Who says "cheats never prosper"?

How many Flags have they won?

Throw the book at them

[Murray]

I bet the AFL go light on them after all the screaming they did last time

Thou hypocrite, first cast out the beam out of thine own eye; and then shalt thou see clearly to cast out the mote out of thy brother's eye.? - Bible, Old Testiment

[colt]

This just keeps getting better and better......

Can't wait for the next installment

[Culprit]

My Prediction, Allen to be Deregistered 6-10 weeks. His Manager banned by the AFL Players association. Carlton to be fined $50000.

[AnthonyC]

I guess there is the potential that the '95 flag was won when they were cheating the cap. So that's one. The '87 flag was I guess one year? after the introduction of the cap (1986) or was that the draft or both?, so that's hard to say. If someone can find evidence of cheating in '79 and '81 I wouldn't be surprised, and add '70 to that.


Go Pies!

[PieClive]

AnthonyC, dunno about the salary cap but Caaaarrton's cheating in '79 was shortfat Harmes being in row eight over the fence when he knocked the ball in to Bomba Sheldon.

But that's annuva story.

[THE D.O.C.]

all i have 2 say is lmao at carlton



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[CQ]

yeh, this just gets funnier and funnier!

TARKO TARKO MAN!
I WANT TO BE A TARKO MAN!