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pies4ever
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Vietnam veteran apology needed
Michael Harvey
August 15, 2006 12:00am
OPPONENTS of the Vietnam War who abused Australian soldiers must apologise and admit they were wrong, federal Parliament heard yesterday.
Victorian Liberal MP Tony Smith said protesters who hurled paint and spat at Diggers decades ago knew they had been wrong but still chose to remain silent.
"It is time for those whose actions added to the emotional wounds of our returned soldiers to act to heal them," Mr Smith said.
Marking the 40th anniversary of the Battle of Long Tan, he said protesters had been entitled to voice objections to the war but their argument was with the government of the day, not Diggers
http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/story/0,21985,20129412-2862,00.html _________________ As Reg Reagan Says-Go And Get Stuffed..!! |
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David
to wish impossible things
Joined: 27 Jul 2003 Location: the edge of the deep green sea
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shameful that they even have to ask them to apologise now, this should have been done decades ago. I don't know how anyone could morally justify spitting on returning soldiers. _________________ "Every time we witness an injustice and do not act, we train our character to be passive in its presence." – Julian Assange |
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Magpie 24
AT least I have more than one jacket
Joined: 12 Jan 2004 Location: YIHAA! Welcome to redneck land. All typing furiously!!!!!
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Maybe they are waiting until after the federal government apologises for stealing children from their parents because they were black. _________________ Break out the Marinaras and let's find some cute big eyed hairdressers!
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HAL
Please don't shout at me - I can't help it.
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waiting until after the federal government apologies for stealing children from their parents because they were black are waiting until after the federal government apologies for stealing children from their parents because they were black . |
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Piethagoras' Theorem
the hypotenuse, is always a cakewalk
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Magpie 24 wrote: | Maybe they are waiting until after the federal government apologises for stealing children from their parents because they were black. |
You know I was thinking the same thing. What a bunch of hypocrites _________________ Formally frankiboy and FrankieGoesToCollingwood. |
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David
to wish impossible things
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Fair enough, but there is a difference. No-one associated with the current government had any part in the stolen generation, if it occurred. Based on that logic shouldn't they also have to apologise for the White Australia Policy, the denial of suffrage for women in the 1800s, hell, even the invasion of britain in 1066? after all they're descended from the same people.
The difference is, these people who spat on returning soldiers are still alive, and as far as we're aware, completely unremorseful about what they did.
While the stolen generation is a contentious issue, and one that deserves a whole thread about it, I'll qualify my first paragraph. From all accounts, the 'stolen generation' was in most cases a well intentioned attempt to save aboriginal children from abuse. True, "the road to hell is paved with good intentions", and few would argue that what was done was the right thing. All the same, the issue deserves a less simplified view than what is currently held by many. _________________ "Every time we witness an injustice and do not act, we train our character to be passive in its presence." – Julian Assange |
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London Dave
Ješte jedna pivo prosím
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David from Canberra wrote: | From all accounts, the 'stolen generation' was in most cases a well intentioned attempt to save aboriginal children from abuse. |
all accounts?
then again, the alleged spitting on the soldiers may just have been a wll intentioned form of process. You can't have it both ways mate! |
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Magpie 24
AT least I have more than one jacket
Joined: 12 Jan 2004 Location: YIHAA! Welcome to redneck land. All typing furiously!!!!!
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David from Canberra wrote: | Fair enough, but there is a difference. No-one associated with the current government had any part in the stolen generation, if it occurred. Based on that logic shouldn't they also have to apologise for the White Australia Policy, the denial of suffrage for women in the 1800s, hell, even the invasion of britain in 1066? after all they're descended from the same people.
The difference is, these people who spat on returning soldiers are still alive, and as far as we're aware, completely unremorseful about what they did.
While the stolen generation is a contentious issue, and one that deserves a whole thread about it, I'll qualify my first paragraph. From all accounts, the 'stolen generation' was in most cases a well intentioned attempt to save aboriginal children from abuse. True, "the road to hell is paved with good intentions", and few would argue that what was done was the right thing. All the same, the issue deserves a less simplified view than what is currently held by many. |
Thanks, Andrew Bolt. _________________ Break out the Marinaras and let's find some cute big eyed hairdressers! |
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David
to wish impossible things
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Magpie 24 wrote: | David from Canberra wrote: | Fair enough, but there is a difference. No-one associated with the current government had any part in the stolen generation, if it occurred. Based on that logic shouldn't they also have to apologise for the White Australia Policy, the denial of suffrage for women in the 1800s, hell, even the invasion of britain in 1066? after all they're descended from the same people.
The difference is, these people who spat on returning soldiers are still alive, and as far as we're aware, completely unremorseful about what they did.
While the stolen generation is a contentious issue, and one that deserves a whole thread about it, I'll qualify my first paragraph. From all accounts, the 'stolen generation' was in most cases a well intentioned attempt to save aboriginal children from abuse. True, "the road to hell is paved with good intentions", and few would argue that what was done was the right thing. All the same, the issue deserves a less simplified view than what is currently held by many. |
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what's your opinion on the issue m24?
Dave I'm not saying anything particularly radical. Are you suggesting that those who took aboriginal children from their families were doing so to wipe out the aboriginal race or something? The more logical and supportable view of history wouldn't agree. And explain how spitting on soldiers could possibly be well intentioned. _________________ "Every time we witness an injustice and do not act, we train our character to be passive in its presence." – Julian Assange |
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Magpie 24
AT least I have more than one jacket
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David from Canberra wrote: |
what's your opinion on the issue m24?
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Roof Seal has feet of clay _________________ Break out the Marinaras and let's find some cute big eyed hairdressers! |
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HAL
Please don't shout at me - I can't help it.
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Can you please rephrase that with fewer ideas, or different thoughts? |
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David
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Magpie 24 wrote: | David from Canberra wrote: |
what's your opinion on the issue m24?
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Roof Seal has feet of clay |
Predictable as ever _________________ "Every time we witness an injustice and do not act, we train our character to be passive in its presence." – Julian Assange |
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Pa Marmo
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There is a very good reason why the government of today does not say sorry for the so called sins of the past. The minute someone apoligises it will open the litigation flood gates and we will become a nation of mega wealthy Indigeneous peoples with a poor european majority. _________________ Genesis 1:1 |
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Magpie 24
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Just like all those farmer's lost their land after Native Title? _________________ Break out the Marinaras and let's find some cute big eyed hairdressers! |
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Pa Marmo
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Native title has yet to run its race M24. There will be a time of reckoning on native title. _________________ Genesis 1:1 |
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