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bally12
Joined: 30 Sep 2010
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Post subject: Since when did our colours change to Rainbow? | |
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Look, I'm all for accepting and respecting people of all persuastions as long as they are not causing any harm or imposing their values or will on other people.
Our club's colours are black and white, not rainbow colors. Why do we have the rainbow colours on our masthead on the Collingwood website? We as a club are not represented by, neither do we represent any LGBTQ minority groups in exclusivity. It makes no sense to have a minority group's logo featured on our website. Instead our philosophy should plainly be that we are accepting of all spectrums of society, and we don't discriminate in any way, be it racial, sexual, or anything else.
At our core we are a football club, but we have a large reach, and the opportunity to extend our influence in society in positive ways. I get that. I just don't think we need to virtual signal on social issues that relate to particular sections of the community, in a disproportionate way.
We are Collingwood. We are open to everyone. We are black and white. |
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WhyPhilWhy?
WhyPhilWhy?
Joined: 09 Oct 2001 Location: Location: Location:
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I'm perfectly happy for the club to make that small gesture to demonstrate support for a long bullied, oppressed and excluded section of society.
After our long history of exclusion, its a genuine sign of wanting to change.
Doesn't trigger me at all... |
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KenH
Joined: 24 Jan 2010
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I agree with WPW it is a small gesture, the rainbow colours I believe means we are accepting of all spectrums of society so Bally12 I can't see any problems with that? _________________ Cheers big ears |
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masoncox
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Joined: 31 Aug 2015
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WhyPhilWhy? wrote: | I'm perfectly happy for the club to make that small gesture to demonstrate support for a long bullied, oppressed and excluded section of society.
After our long history of exclusion, its a genuine sign of wanting to change.
Doesn't trigger me at all... |
They are not bullied, oppressed and excluded section of society any more in Australia.
Maybe we should put the Palestine flag and the myriad of other genuine contenders throughout the world up there as well. |
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WhyPhilWhy?
WhyPhilWhy?
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masoncox wrote: | They are not bullied, oppressed and excluded section of society any more in Australia. |
If only it was so - tried raising a queer teenager? |
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KenH
Joined: 24 Jan 2010
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masoncox wrote: | They are not bullied, oppressed and excluded section of society any more in Australia. |
If this was the case why has there been no gay men come out in the AFL competition? You are truly kidding yourself if you believe that! _________________ Cheers big ears |
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stui magpie
Prepare for the worst, hope for the best.
Joined: 03 May 2005 Location: In flagrante delicto
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I fully believe that there are currently gay men playing in the AFL. Some are completely hidden, some are known within the club and even to some of the journos. The reason none have come out yet isn't, in my opinion, because they fear being persecuted but rather than none want the media circus and all the attention and pressure that would come with it.
It won't be too long before some kid is drafted through the system who is already openly gay and it won't be a thing.
FWIW, I have no problem with the rainbow bit on the club website. It's just a bit of recognition. _________________ Every dead body on Mt Everest was once a highly motivated person, so maybe just calm the **** down. |
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Skids
Quitting drinking will be one of the best choices you make in your life.
Joined: 11 Sep 2007 Location: Joined 3/6/02 . Member #175
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I thought it was the Nashos ribbon. _________________ Don't count the days, make the days count. |
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think positive
Side By Side
Joined: 30 Jun 2005 Location: somewhere
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I had a look, What do the other colours represent? I have no problem with including a rainbow stripe somewhere, but that just weird. No explanation for what it all represents.
I don’t care who is or isn’t gay, straight, black or white, gees it’s getting tiresome having to prove it all the time.
Bullying and intimidation is shit, end of story, but while everyone keeps accepting personal insults as acceptable jokes, what do you expect? Nobody knows where the line is….because there shouldn’t be one. Just don’t.
“I’m only joking”. Ugh _________________ You cant fix stupid, turns out you cant quarantine it either! |
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Culprit
Joined: 06 Feb 2003 Location: Port Melbourne
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We always need reminding that there is a section of our community that struggles with indifference and totally lacks any level of empathy. The rainbow is here to stay and I hope it totally annoys those who struggle with it. |
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Piesnchess
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WhyPhilWhy? wrote: | masoncox wrote: | They are not bullied, oppressed and excluded section of society any more in Australia. |
If only it was so - tried raising a queer teenager? |
AND, why is it so that Gay players have come out openly in the AFLW, a number of them, yet not ONE , sadly, in the AFL ?? Only reason is, as ackermanis said few yrs ago, cos of all the media shit, hype, spin, theyd cop ad the awful remarks from over the fence, by some bigoted nasty fans, thus the AFL is not ready for it yet, or cannot handle it. I have NO issue with the rainbow colours at all, if it can lead to oneday, AFL players being Gay, and open about it, and n ot cop narrow minded crap from fans. _________________ Poverty exists not because we cannot feed the poor, but because we cannot satisfy the rich.
Chess and Vodka are born brothers. - Russian proverb. |
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RudeBoy
Joined: 28 Nov 2005
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There are a lot of problems in the world......this ain't one of them. |
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Charlie Oneeye
charlie oneeye
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Unfortunately, for a whole set of reasons, we seem to approach this as a sort of of clash culture.
1000 pages is not enough to extrapolate on this.
I know as a club we should not be about politics, but we are about community.
I just wish to simply say...
Just this afternoon I attended my Nephews wedding, it was a Gay wedding. How wonderful it was to see them happy,
I noted the concentration of 'different' 'people in one place, great it was to see them happy in a safe place mingling with straight' friends and family.
Woke, or Cancel or Acronyms aside... we are left will a real part of life that many of our loved ones need to skirt around.
To open the door with such a small sign which says we are understanding, you are welcome and safe .. I think a small but meaningful gesture to embrace a shunned part of our community. |
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bucking awesome
Joined: 29 Aug 2018
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Well said Charlie _________________ Painful frustrating disappointing exhilarating and unbelievably awesome. - That's a Collingwood life through and through |
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pietillidie
Joined: 07 Jan 2005
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You might be a kid, I guess, but grown adults don't take offence at other people being acknowledged for their unique experience. There's room for us all. _________________ In the end the rain comes down, washes clean the streets of a blue sky town.
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