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Take_a_Screamer
.....No.40...Ash Johnson...
Joined: 22 Aug 2018 Location: Melbourne S.E.Suburbs
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think better
Joined: 16 May 2005 Location: Adelaide
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Jezza wrote: | ^ Awful news
It only makes Grundy's final quarter all the more extraordinary. |
Just what I was thinking. Not bad for a guy who apparently doesn't try hard enough _________________ I think therefore I think - I think |
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Presti35
Dick Lee for Legend Status
Joined: 05 Oct 2001 Location: London, England
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Question, did Draper purposely crash into Grundy when the injury happened? _________________ A Goal Saved Is 2 Goals Earned! |
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Pies2016
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Drapers aggression set the tone early but the incident was knee on knee and Grundy grimaced before he landed on it. I would think initiating that type of contact is extremely unlikely because another centimetre either way and it could have been Draper with the PCL injury.
Grundy has been very durable over the years. If you participate in enough of these contests, then eventually one them has your name on it. It’s just another example of injury bad luck that seems to follow us from one week to the next.
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Ronnie McKeowns boots
Ronnie Mckeowns boots
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Twas bad luck indeed, but you know what they say about the Ruckmans PCL; jump higher than the other guy and you'll be sweet _________________ "You hate a mean man, a grasping man, a man who wants everything and gives nothing. That’s Collingwood. They are a law unto themselves"
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What'sinaname
Joined: 29 May 2010 Location: Living rent free
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Presti35 wrote: | Question, did Draper purposely crash into Grundy when the injury happened? |
Of course he did, but that's irrelevant. |
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mudlark
Joined: 19 Mar 2002 Location: Maroochydore Qld
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burnsy17 wrote: | mudlark wrote: | You can all apologise to Reg whenever you want to. |
He was putrid for 3 qtrs.
Their ruckman ragdolled him repeatedly. He needs to be tougher than that.
He’s a $1M a year ruckman. 1 qtr every now and then isn’t good enough. |
“Putrid “?? You were watching a different game than me. The sort of crap you’d expect from an Essendope supporter. You certainly sound more like one of them than a Collingwood supporter. Maybe if the midfielders got to Grundys great work first he may well have been our best. He was there when it counted till the end. The filth player was nowhere to be seen. That’s when the whips were cracking. |
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burnsy17
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Yeah, Draper purposely did it 🙄
Just another reason why you don’t spend the farm on a ruckman. They’re too prone to injuries with what they do. Carlton lost their ruckman to the same injury this week. The Hawks are 2 ruckman down. Ceglar hasn’t played a game for the cats yet.
There’s plenty more examples. _________________ Beware the swooping Magpie. |
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burnsy17
Joined: 10 Aug 2003
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mudlark wrote: | burnsy17 wrote: | mudlark wrote: | You can all apologise to Reg whenever you want to. |
He was putrid for 3 qtrs.
Their ruckman ragdolled him repeatedly. He needs to be tougher than that.
He’s a $1M a year ruckman. 1 qtr every now and then isn’t good enough. |
“Putrid “?? You were watching a different game than me. The sort of crap you’d expect from an Essendope supporter. You certainly sound more like one of them than a Collingwood supporter. Maybe if the midfielders got to Grundys great work first he may well have been our best. He was there when it counted till the end. The filth player was nowhere to be seen. That’s when the whips were cracking. |
Yes, his first 3 qtrs were putrid. If you see it a different way, that’s your perspective. _________________ Beware the swooping Magpie. |
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eddiesmith
Lets get ready to Rumble
Joined: 22 Nov 2004 Location: Lexus Centre
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burnsy17 wrote: | Yeah, Draper purposely did it 🙄
Just another reason why you don’t spend the farm on a ruckman. They’re too prone to injuries with what they do. Carlton lost their ruckman to the same injury this week. The Hawks are 2 ruckman down. Ceglar hasn’t played a game for the cats yet.
There’s plenty more examples. |
And we'll be paying him a $million when he's 33, I'm sure a ruckman will be in tip top shape at 33... |
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Big T
Joined: 18 Oct 2003 Location: Torino, Italy
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burnsy17 wrote: | Yeah, Draper purposely did it 🙄
Just another reason why you don’t spend the farm on a ruckman. They’re too prone to injuries with what they do. Carlton lost their ruckman to the same injury this week. The Hawks are 2 ruckman down. Ceglar hasn’t played a game for the cats yet.
There’s plenty more examples. |
I'm dead against his ridiculous contract but he has been durable. _________________ Buon Giorno |
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Pies2016
Joined: 12 Sep 2014
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burnsy17 wrote: | Yeah, Draper purposely did it 🙄
Just another reason why you don’t spend the farm on a ruckman. They’re too prone to injuries with what they do. Carlton lost their ruckman to the same injury this week. The Hawks are 2 ruckman down. Ceglar hasn’t played a game for the cats yet.
There’s plenty more examples. |
It’s a valid point, particularly this year. Not sure if its coincidence or a subtle tweak in the game. Teams are going with two ruckman more frequently, so maybe the coaches are asking them to go in harder and wear down the opposition.
You can also add Natnui and Hickey ( both knee ) English ( hamstring ) Lycett ( shoulder I think ) Phillips, Ryder. Surely Gawns time is nigh. |
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Magpietothemax
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Couldn't watch the game live, and just finished the replay. I was so impressed how we were able to fight back after they seized momentum in the third quarter. I love the style we are playing. I thought in this game we actually were not as good as in several previous games in terms of contested ball pressure and ball movement, but I did think that our defence looked more cohesive and better organised.
Jack Ginnivan is a beauty/
Loved Checkers' game as well - he is so calm, and just exudes leadership and clearly has earned the respect of all around him.
Grundy was huge in the last quarter.
Losing him is massive. Replacing him exactly won't be possible, so creativity will be required. _________________ Free Julian Assange!!
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E wrote: | qldmagpie67 wrote: | ThePieMind wrote: | burnsy17 wrote: | mudlark wrote: | You can all apologise to Reg whenever you want to. |
He was putrid for 3 qtrs.
Their ruckman ragdolled him repeatedly. He needs to be tougher than that.
He’s a $1M a year ruckman. 1 qtr every now and then isn’t good enough. |
Do we win without Grundy’s huge last QTR?
No
End of story.
We want players who stand up when the games on the line. |
The other way of looking at it is
If we had a ruckman who at least halved the contest in the previous 3 quarters would the game had already been in the bag
Because Draper for 75% of the game dominated and was vital in most of there dominance around the ball and ground
For a million a year supporters should be able to expect better than we need dished up for 75% of the game
Objectively Pendles has never earned a million a season but you won’t find a game where he was a complete liability for 75% of the match
On the value for money scale Draper earns about 20% of what Grundy does so who provided there team more value for money ?? |
Its funny that the stats don't bear out what you are saying. i feel like we are so spoilt in ruck that if Grundy doesn't completely dominate his opponent, we consider it a loss. a lesser ruckman held his own with Grundy for three quarters appears to be the more accurate way to describe it.
Although this kid looks like a decent ruckman and is likely on the rise. so maybe its not fair to say lesser ruckman. We have been spoilt for a long time in the ruck. |
i guess we are now going to find out how valuable Grundy is? _________________ Ohhh, the Premiership's a cakewalk ....... |
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Rd10.1998_11.1#36
rd10.1998_11.1#36
Joined: 18 Jul 2018 Location: Sevilla, Spain
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