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MightyMagpie 



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PostPosted: Sat Aug 24, 2019 10:44 am
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Scharenberg (concussion)
Moore (tight hamstring - Bucks said no other signs and just a no risk approach in post game)
Thomas (knee - Bucks said clear in post game)

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PostPosted: Sat Aug 24, 2019 11:30 am
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Got two weeks b4 we play a finals
Xtra time handy

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PostPosted: Sat Aug 24, 2019 12:46 pm
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Exclusive per TB:

Darcy Moore has stopped and just spoken to @7NewsMelbourne . He seems optimistic about playing the first final. Awareness / precautionary last night according to Darce

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PostPosted: Sat Aug 24, 2019 1:48 pm
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Update from Bucks: https://www.3aw.com.au/nathan-buckley-provides-an-updates-on-darcy-moores-hamstring-injury/
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 24, 2019 4:07 pm
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Sier injured just after quarter time in VFL. Ruled out of match. Not sure if he has re-injured calf or new injury.
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Ads7 wrote:
Sier injured just after quarter time in VFL. Ruled out of match. Not sure if he has re-injured calf or new injury.


The third quarter is underway. Unfortunately, Brayden Sier will play no further part as he has a concussion.

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PostPosted: Sat Aug 24, 2019 4:50 pm
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They said concussion
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 24, 2019 5:10 pm
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Murphy possible concussion in VFL as well.
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 24, 2019 6:31 pm
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Interesting article from the Herald Sun, written by Goldie, regarding our training program for players returning from injury:
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"At Collingwood, we call it “Super Saturday”, but it’s nowhere near as exciting as it sounds.

In fact, it’s the closest thing to hell for Collingwood players on the road to recovery and for Jaidyn Stephenson it has been his start to the weekend for nine out of the past 10 Saturdays before this weekend.

Let’s paint the picture for what these gruelling sessions mean.


They are scheduled for the players who are just about ready to resume playing football. The session pushes them to extremes to have them cherry ripe for their comebacks.

Usually, the guys getting out of the rehab group do it for two weeks. A few unlucky ones have had to do it for three weeks.

But in light of Stevo’s unusual 10-game ban, he was forced to sweat it out for three times the normal amount of Super Saturdays than most of us have had to do.

Players engaged on Saturday have to do a minimum of 10km running to help simulate the game loads.


It’s normally in excess of 10km — measured with your GPS strapped to your back or through your watch — and includes footy-type drills, repeat loads, fartlek running, game simulation and retrievals.

Banned forward Jaidyn Stephenson completed nine tortuous “Super Saturday” sessions to prepare him for his return for finals.
Banned forward Jaidyn Stephenson completed nine tortuous “Super Saturday” sessions to prepare him for his return for finals.
Retrievals are precisely as they sound. You have someone kick a ball out at an angle and your task is to run and get it back to him as fast as you can — over and over and over again.

I’m sure Stevo has had plenty of sleepless Friday nights knowing what was coming the next day. He would have slept like a baby on the Saturday night in exhaustion.

The only Super Saturday he missed was when he spent a few days having a break with his family in Cairns. More of that later.

What those sessions have done — on top of Saturday’s return via the VFL against Box Hill Hawks — is make him as prepared as he possibly could be to launch into the first AFL final in just under two weeks time.

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Jaidyn is a good kid who made a very silly mistake and paid the price for his indiscretion.

So what does that leave us with … a good kid who has done everything he can do to make amends for his actions.

He has done the wrong thing. We know that. He knows that.

He copped his right whack, with a bit of GST added in.

All credit to him for being open and honest about his mistake, which is more than we can say for some other footballers.

Stephenson has served his 10-game AFL ban. Picture: Michael Klein
Stephenson has served his 10-game AFL ban. Picture: Michael Klein
But what he has done across the past 10 weeks has shown his character and that he will leave no stone unturned to get the most out of himself in footy’s most important month.

From the moment he spoke to the group about his betting ban he was remorseful and embarrassed. In the time since, he has worked tirelessly.

He was a young man who had a standout debut year — winning the Rising Star — and never had a bad word written or said about him. Rightly so, too.

He found it hard to deal with the negative external comments for the first week or two after his ban was delivered.

That came in two different ways — the initial response to the ban (which was fair enough) and the commentary surrounding his trip to Cairns (which was hysterical).

When he went up there, the club had a weekend off, and also the Tuesday off, so Jaidyn missed ONE day of training (which was approved by the club).

Had anyone seen the weeks of hard work and toil he put in before that weekend, no one would have doubted him.

By the way, I didn’t have any issue with him posting a few snapshots on social media, either.

How does a second-year player influence a footy club when he is not playing? He tips into the program and leaves nothing in the tank.

That’s exactly what he has done since he was handed the 10-match suspension.

He’s been to the training sessions and he has not missed one meeting. He’s even been to meetings he didn’t need to be at.


Part of that has been the role he has played leading into games.

He has sometimes worked as a “shadow” with the senior team at training. That means at training he has taken on the role of a certain player from the opposition the club is playing the following weekend. I’ve got no doubt that has helped us.

His absence on match day has been noticeable. He was sorely missed in those early weeks and the forward line looked a little stagnant.

But the boys are gelling a bit better in attack now and with Jaidyn and Jordan De Goey to come back for the finals, it’s exciting.

Stevo creates opportunity with the speed he generates and his work rate is massive. He is a genuine livewire who will be ready to go when the first final rolls around.

What has happened to Stevo this year won’t define him as a person. Far from it.

But what happens to him next will, and I for one, can’t wait to see how he fares in September — and beyond. "

Great to hear the internal support and solidarity with Stepho.
I hope that our gruelling Saturday "torture" sessions for players returning from injury are indeed best practice, and not the reason for our crippling injury list which seems to remain so long for so long.

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PostPosted: Sat Aug 24, 2019 7:26 pm
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Now the VFL is done;

Presti35 wrote:
With a week off between the R23 and the finals, we have a few new concerns.

Probable Tests:
Scharenberg - Concussion. Should be ok
Sier - Concussion Should be ok
Sidebottom - Nut. Should be ok
Moore - Hamstring. Word is he will be ok to play and missed the second half as a precautionary.
Thomas - Knee. Was cleared by Bucks in the presser
Aish - Shoulder.
De Goey - Hamstring.

Bit of a mystery:
Isaac Quaynor - Foot
Ben Reid - Calf and Hamstring
Will Kelly - Hamstring

Gone for the year:
Mason Cox - Eye (Season)
Dayne Beams - Hip/Shoulder (Season)
Lynden Dunn - Knee (Season)
Tom Langdon - Knee (Season)


Dont know if all these players will get back in for the first final but should all be available for selection:

Scharenberg, Sier, Sidebottom, Moore, Thomas, Aish and De Goey.

Quaynor and Kelly could be a part of that list too, but feel like they've been put on ice until next year.

Imagine only having 4 players unavailable?

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 25, 2019 4:00 am
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Didn't Wells play well in the VFL as well ?
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 25, 2019 5:54 am
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"Another making a comeback was Brayden Sier...

His day ended prematurely when he suffered a concussion in the second term.

Veteran Daniel Wells showed his class in his first outing since suffering a serious left knee injury against Sydney in May, collecting 18 disposals.

Defender Nathan Murphy impressed with his aerial ability but suffered a pinched nerve in his neck in the second half.

Meanwhile, fears abound for VFL captain Alex Woodward, who went down late in the game with a knee concern.

While the stretcher was called out, Woodward limped off the ground and had bandaging around a leg after the game.

With the result still in the balance, Collingwood coach Jared Rivers left the coaches' box to console the emotional onballer, who immediately headed down the race."


https://www.afl.com.au/news/2019-08-24/stephenson-proves-he-is-ready-for-finals-return-phill-out-cold
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 25, 2019 11:25 am
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"He's looking likely to come back, so watch this space."

A Ben Reid return is imminent, says Tyson Goldsack #GameDay

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 25, 2019 11:43 am
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So do we pull the trigger and play Wells? It's a yes from me!
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Didn't Wells play well in the VFL as well ?


Yes he did. And he got through it 100%. He is available for selection and not on the injury list.

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