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stui magpie
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watt price tully wrote: | stui magpie wrote: | watt price tully wrote: |
It's OK to admit you were wrong about Unions. |
You're correct. I'm waiting for you to do it. |
I admit I was wrong about Unions in general and the CFMEU specifically |
Good to see. _________________ Every dead body on Mt Everest was once a highly motivated person, so maybe just calm the **** down. |
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watt price tully
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stui magpie wrote: | watt price tully wrote: | stui magpie wrote: | watt price tully wrote: |
It's OK to admit you were wrong about Unions. |
You're correct. I'm waiting for you to do it. |
Stui wrote: I admit I was wrong about Unions in general and the CFMEU specifically |
Good to see. |
I'm glad you like it. _________________ “I even went as far as becoming a Southern Baptist until I realised they didn’t keep ‘em under long enough” Kinky Friedman |
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Wokko
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Pies4shaw
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"The CFMEUs Victorian Secretary John Setka who recently had blackmail charges against him dropped" ....
Ho ho ho. |
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stui magpie
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Quite a good article here I thought, about the current state of play with unions in AUS and a little US history thrown in.
A few selected quotes.
Quote: | One of the main reasons that Australia doesn't have a Donald Trump is that while shocking American inequality has fed a seething anger, in Australia it's just a different universe.
And a key reason that inequality is milder here is because Australia has long had a vigorous union movement. And, in particular, because Australia's union movement has had its own political party. |
Quote: | Today there is a new mission for the unions. The so-called "gig" economy is a hip euphemism for the e-xploitation economy. A great many start-up firms concoct a quirky name, add a misspelling or two, then take worker protections back by about a century, based on the fact that they conduct some of their business on the internet. |
Quote: | But union HQ, the Australian Council of Trade Unions, is going much further. Under its new leadership, the union movement has become more militant. Its agenda would take Australia's workplaces back to the pre-reform era of the strike-prone 1970s. |
Quote: | The new shrillness and militancy of the ACTU is driven by its continuing shrinkage. That isn't necessarily a bad idea for the union bosses in pursuit of power. Look at the French experience. France's unionisation rate of just 8 per cent is one of the lowest in Europe, yet because it is concentrated in key sectors of the economy and because it is hyper-militant, it has been able to wield an effective veto on economic reform in that country for generations.
The French unions bosses get their power, but France gets a poorly performing economy and lousy job growth for decades. President Emmanuel Macron is trying to lead France out of this economic and social dead end, yet it's precisely where the McManus ACTU wants to lead Australia. |
Enough teasing, read the article. I love the reference to the CFMEU
https://www.theage.com.au/politics/federal/labor-leader-must-stand-up-to-militant-union-demands-20180720-p4zskd.html _________________ Every dead body on Mt Everest was once a highly motivated person, so maybe just calm the **** down. |
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stui magpie
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Quote: | Two construction officials who refused to show their right of entry permits when entering a work site and who swore at a site manager who asked to see the permits have escaped paying court penalties out of their own pockets.
The Federal Court of Australia fined the Construction, Forestry, Maritime, Mining and Energy Union $245,000 and officials Nigel Davies $19,000 and Alex Tadic $7,500.
That means the CFMMEU has been penalised a total of $271,500 over the Bendigo Theatre incident on the same day it lost an appeal against a $306,000 penalty from another case. |
Quote: | In upholding the $306,000 penalty Justice Tracey said the union "simply regards itself as free to disobey the law". |
https://www.theage.com.au/business/workplace/construction-union-ordered-to-pay-577-500-for-unlawful-behaviour-20180814-p4zxcq.html _________________ Every dead body on Mt Everest was once a highly motivated person, so maybe just calm the **** down. |
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watt price tully
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If only the Government went as hard on Banks and Corrupt Corporations as they do on Unions. |
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Pies4shaw
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stui magpie
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Pies4shaw wrote: | https://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-12-06/cfmeu-boss-john-setka-sues-boral-boss-over-blackmail-charges/10591516?WT.ac=localnews_melbourne |
From the article.
Quote: | It followed claims by the Boral executives that the company had been threatened with union action if it continued to supply concrete to Melbourne building sites operated by Grocon.
The CFMEU was waging an industrial campaign against Grocon at the time, based on concerns about worksite safety and access by union officials to Grocon worksites. |
The CFMEU were trying to destroy Grocon because they were trying to do what the law said they had to rather than what the CFMEU wanted, which was to appoint their own H&S reps onto sites and have Grocon pay them. The law requires the union to be involved in the election of a H&S rep, who is an employee of the company. It's an unpaid role (normally) that does carry some power. They get time away from their paid job to do H&S stuff as necesary but it's not a full time paid job. The CFMEU wanted Grocon to employ their nominated people, who would be paid by Grocon and only do H&S. Grocon refused, hence the argument.
Win, lose or settle, the CFMEU is the modern day version of the BLF _________________ Every dead body on Mt Everest was once a highly motivated person, so maybe just calm the **** down. |
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stui magpie
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Pies4shaw
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If he's not careful, he could become almost as unpopular as Peter Dutton. |
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stui magpie
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They could join forces. Drop Setka at sea up north to confront any incoming boats by yelling "No ticket, no start" at them.
Those boats would about face real quick. _________________ Every dead body on Mt Everest was once a highly motivated person, so maybe just calm the **** down. |
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