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HAL
Please don't shout at me - I can't help it.
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In what way? |
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Culprit
Joined: 06 Feb 2003 Location: Port Melbourne
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Sorry TP, I can't see it your way from who I have dealt with and what I have experienced in life. In a perfect world maybe, but our world is far from perfect. |
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Bucks5
Nicky D - Parting the red sea
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I wonder whether the cost of ambulance fees also contributes to this violence....
Some of it will be the being woken up and manhandled factor, but who wouldn't resist unsolicited treatment if it means being billed thousands of dollars because some 'good samaritan' has called for an unwanted ambulance?
I'm thinking that an ambulance membership will not be high on a druggy's list of priorities. _________________ How would Siri know when to answer "Hey Siri" unless it is listening in to everything you say? |
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stui magpie
Prepare for the worst, hope for the best.
Joined: 03 May 2005 Location: In flagrante delicto
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Good thought. I guess the Ambos aren't going to know what reaction they'll get till they start work. (unless the person is 'known' as in WPT's examples)
I saw on the news last night there are designated no-go areas for ambulances and other places where it's cops required on scene before you attend.
Be a bit hard if you happen to live in a shit area, can't afford to leave, surrounded by Fwits and knowing if you get ill or injured you'll need to get a taxi to hospital. _________________ Every dead body on Mt Everest was once a highly motivated person, so maybe just calm the **** down. |
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Culprit
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Anyone witnessed an addict OD and see an Ambo hit them up with Narcan? I have numerous times and the Addict is pissed right off. You have taken them out of their high that they most likely committed a crime to get to that stage and now they have to go out and do it again. They can become severely aggressive. No doubt we will have the "but drugs are illegal shit" They been illegal for half a century and we haven't changed a thing, oh yes we have it's cheaper to get on these days. |
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Culprit
Joined: 06 Feb 2003 Location: Port Melbourne
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think positive
Side By Side
Joined: 30 Jun 2005 Location: somewhere
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In that case culprit maybe we could put the refugee camps to better use
If addicts are that dangerous lock em all up! _________________ You cant fix stupid, turns out you cant quarantine it either! |
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Culprit
Joined: 06 Feb 2003 Location: Port Melbourne
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think positive wrote: | In that case culprit maybe we could put the refugee camps to better use
If addicts are that dangerous lock em all up! | We either make the call to let them die or help them. There is no middle ground. |
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David
I dare you to try
Joined: 27 Jul 2003 Location: Andromeda
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think positive wrote: | In that case culprit maybe we could put the refugee camps to better use
If addicts are that dangerous lock em all up! |
Make them all wear yellow stars, while we're at it... _________________ All watched over by machines of loving grace |
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Mugwump
Joined: 28 Jul 2007 Location: Between London and Melbourne
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Culprit wrote: | Anyone witnessed an addict OD and see an Ambo hit them up with Narcan? I have numerous times and the Addict is pissed right off. You have taken them out of their high that they most likely committed a crime to get to that stage and now they have to go out and do it again. They can become severely aggressive. No doubt we will have the "but drugs are illegal shit" They been illegal for half a century and we haven't changed a thing, oh yes we have it's cheaper to get on these days. |
Actually they have been illegal for far longer than half a century, and for a long time that illegality was enforced, and it worked rather well. What has happened in the last half a century is that they have been semi-tolerated by police and relentlessly glamorized in popular music, the biggest propaganda tool of our era. At the same time, we have deregulated alcohol consumption (licensing hours, etc) and the evils of alcohol have grown accordingly. We see the results around us everywhere. _________________ Two more flags before I die! |
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HAL
Please don't shout at me - I can't help it.
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I didn't take it. |
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Pies4shaw
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The new law is discriminatory and inappropriate. The role of the laws in relation to criminal violence against the person is to ensure that persons of substance are protected from violent outbursts by people without substance. Transportation worked well. |
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K
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P4S, what legal recourse is there in general (say, for an advocacy group) to challenge a new government law? |
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stui magpie
Prepare for the worst, hope for the best.
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Pies4shaw wrote: | The new law is discriminatory and inappropriate. The role of the laws in relation to criminal violence against the person is to ensure that persons of substance are protected from violent outbursts by people without substance. Transportation worked well. |
Se we set up a penal colony in England and transport them to London?
That's a bit inhumane. _________________ Every dead body on Mt Everest was once a highly motivated person, so maybe just calm the **** down. |
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Pies4shaw
pies4shaw
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stui magpie wrote: | Pies4shaw wrote: | The new law is discriminatory and inappropriate. The role of the laws in relation to criminal violence against the person is to ensure that persons of substance are protected from violent outbursts by people without substance. Transportation worked well. |
Se we set up a penal colony in England and transport them to London?
That's a bit inhumane. |
It’s very cold and there’s only soccer to watch in winter - but they’d learn their lesson quickly watching nil-all draws between West Ham and Chelsea, I reckon. |
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