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Please don't shout at me - I can't help it.
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I think it might be a trade secret. |
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think positive
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Good parental advice, not just for the kids your talking about _________________ You cant fix stupid, turns out you cant quarantine it either! |
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stui magpie
Prepare for the worst, hope for the best.
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David wrote: | stui magpie wrote: | So when every American has easy access to guns, and Blacks are more highly represented in crime stats than blacks, any cop pulling up a black person will be on heightened alert. That's not racial profiling, that's preservation instinct kicking in. |
Its both, though. Cant you see? If youre a cop and you get nervous and trigger-happy around African-Americans because of reasons x, y or z (no matter how justified they may seem), you are a danger to innocent black men. |
Maybe, but if you aren't on heightened alert, you're at increased risk of having yourself shot.
Quote: | I agree that crime and poverty are closely related, and that the overrepresentation of African-Americans in crime rates is mostly a reflection of that fact. How does that justify racial profiling and prejudice, particularly when it has lethal consequences? It may explain it, but it certainly doesnt make it ok. |
No, but it is what it is. profiling by race, gender or any other demographic is part of life whether you like it or not. marketing tailor adverts to specific demographics, that's just profiling in another way
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Imagine youre an African-American for a moment, particularly one who lives in a poor area: not only do you have to put up with the fact that the people around you disproportionately live in poverty and hardship, but, partially as a consequence of that historic inequality and subjugation, the young men in your community run the risk of getting accidentally gunned down by police because of the colour of their skin. Would you be outraged? I know I $$%^%%$ would be. |
and being outraged would likely create a self fulfilling prophesy and get you shot. Mugwumps approach is far more sensible. _________________ Every dead body on Mt Everest was once a highly motivated person, so maybe just calm the **** down. |
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Pies4shaw
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Being white and wealthy is certainly the best available response. |
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David
I dare you to try
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Mugwump wrote: | If you are stopped by police, then engage with them politely and with respect and cooperation. If they do not do the same to you, then make a complaint later. |
Some never get that opportunity, sadly. _________________ All watched over by machines of loving grace |
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watt price tully
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Pies4shaw wrote: | Being white and wealthy is certainly the best available response. |
Well, basically yes. _________________ “I even went as far as becoming a Southern Baptist until I realised they didn’t keep ‘em under long enough” Kinky Friedman |
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Pies4shaw
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watt price tully wrote: | Pies4shaw wrote: | Being white and wealthy is certainly the best available response. |
Well, basically yes. |
Works well for me - the police haven't killed me even once. |
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Mugwump
Joined: 28 Jul 2007 Location: Between London and Melbourne
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Wokko wrote: | http://m.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/dec/26/black-suspects-more-likely-to-be-shot-by-black-cop/ |
Awkward things, facts. _________________ Two more flags before I die! |
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Skids
Quitting drinking will be one of the best choices you make in your life.
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Pies4shaw wrote: | watt price tully wrote: | Pies4shaw wrote: | Being white and wealthy is certainly the best available response. |
Well, basically yes. |
Works well for me - the police haven't killed me even once. |
What utter rot.
If I'm a one eyed collingwood supporter then necessarily I will likely miss other ways of seeing collingwood. The same applies with your response here, it's very hard for you to entertain other ways of seeing complex issues than through reductionist lenses. That is a very ideological way of seeing the world.
White officers are significantly less likely than black officers to kill black suspects and they are not statistically significantly different from Hispanic, other race, and unknown race police officers, the study said, excepting one model where Hispanic officers were marginally more likely to kill black suspects.
But Ron Hosko, president of the Law Enforcement Legal Defense Fund, said that data matters when it comes to closely examining the subject.
I think that more studies like this, as well as the broader data-collection effort that some publications have undertaken, are going to be valuable, he said. My fear is that the mainstream media (and nicks nutty leftists) loves to fan the supposition that these killings are by biased, rogue, racist cops.
http://m.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/dec/26/black-suspects-more-likely-to-be-shot-by-black-cop/ _________________ Don't count the days, make the days count. |
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watt price tully
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^ Skids, please learn to quote properly. _________________ “I even went as far as becoming a Southern Baptist until I realised they didn’t keep ‘em under long enough” Kinky Friedman |
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David
I dare you to try
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Wokko
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Snopes is trash. |
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David
I dare you to try
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Such is our post-facts world when a website dedicated to fact-checking is waved away as trash. This thinking can ultimately only end one way, and thats Conservapedia and Infowars. _________________ All watched over by machines of loving grace |
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Mugwump
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Wokko wrote: |
Snopes is trash. |
I dont know Snopes, and it reads tonally like a responsible and fair source, but when you boil that article down, it says that there are lacunae in the data which prevent it being definitely stated that black officers kill more black suspects, proportionately, than white officers. However, it seems to admit that the data which is available, ie 33% of fatal shooting cases, does support that statement,and the only reason Snopes regards it as unproven is that there is missing data. It is a strange kind of epistemology. _________________ Two more flags before I die!
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think positive
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