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Joel Capricorn



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Location: Mornington Peninsula

PostPosted: Wed Nov 19, 2003 10:46 am
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The '99 draft in hindsight
10:12:07 AM Wed 19 November, 2003
Paul Gough
afl.com.au

http://afl.com.au/default.asp?pg=news&spg=display&articleid=127131

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It is often said that an AFL club’s performance in a National AFL Draft cannot be determined until at least three years later once the youngsters have been given time to develop.....

....And with that in mind and with the 2003 national draft to be held this Saturday, it is worth looking back at clubs’ performances in recent drafts – starting with the 1999 national draft four years ago.

COLLINGWOOD:

Selection: 1 – Josh Fraser: Games 88.
7 – Danny Roach: 1.
18 – Rhyce Shaw: 21.
34 – Leon Davis: 67.
62 – Ben Johnson: 76.
75 – Dale Baynes: 1.
82 – Nick Stone: 0.
88 – Michael Clark: 0.

Overall summary: The Magpies took full advantage of finishing on the bottom in 1999 by securing the stand-out junior of that year in ruckman/forward Fraser. And unlike some number one picks of earlier drafts Fraser has not disappointed and was easily the Magpies’ best player in this year’s grand final loss to Brisbane. At 21 and with 88 games behind him Fraser is coming into his peak years and looms as a future Magpie captain. But the Pies also drafted excellently in ‘99 besides Fraser with Shaw, Davis and Johnson all now established members of the side. In fact this draft, in stark contrast to Carlton, could well be remembered as the beginning of the Magpie revival from wooden spooners to grand finalists in the space of three years.


To find out about the rest of the teams, follow that link.
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hoggy Pisces

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PostPosted: Wed Nov 19, 2003 11:37 am
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I want a refund on Danny Roach.
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Joel Capricorn



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PostPosted: Wed Nov 19, 2003 1:38 pm
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...so do I. Where do I go to get one?
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Presti35 Virgo

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PostPosted: Wed Nov 19, 2003 2:26 pm
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hoggy wrote:
I want a refund on Danny Roach.


i think Ben Johnson @ pick 62 is your refund Wink what a bargin!

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scoobydoo 



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PostPosted: Wed Nov 19, 2003 7:12 pm
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western bulldogs did allright that year
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Sultan of spin Virgo



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PostPosted: Thu Nov 20, 2003 12:00 pm
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Other than Roach that was an excellent year. It would be intresting to compare that to how the other clubs fared in the same year
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Joel Capricorn



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PostPosted: Thu Nov 20, 2003 1:03 pm
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Sultan of Spin, click on that link and you will find a comparison with all other clubs.
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Sultan of spin Virgo



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PostPosted: Thu Nov 20, 2003 4:44 pm
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Thanx Joel, Looks like Geelong, Bulldogs and Melbourne also fared pretty well from this draft.
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piedys Taurus

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 20, 2003 6:53 pm
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FREMANTLE:
Selection: 2 – Paul Hasleby: Games 86.
4 – Matthew Pavlich: 84.

Overall summary: Like Collingwood, the 1999 national draft could well be remembered as the start of a Fremantle revival. Their first two choices – both taken in the first four selections – were named All-Australian in 2003 and look set to be the backbone of the Dockers’ team for the next decade.


Of course the 1999 national draft could well be remembered as the start of the Fremantle revival. We friggin' kick-started it.
Fraser and Haselby at 1 & 2 were givens.
Swapping pick 3 for and King to richmond for 7 and McKee. Although we needed McKee, i'm sure we could have haggled a better deal.
So glad to see Tiggers too pissed it away on Fiora.
So Pavlich goes begging despite the fact that we had no tall backmen.
But that's okay, we got Dynamic Danny Roach, to play alongside Rick Olarenshaw and the other rejects on medical benefits.

This will go down as the biggest draft debacle in the clubs history. If we had Pavlich, we'd be back-to-back premiers now.

Magpie Greg, we know, we know...
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David Libra

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PostPosted: Sun Nov 23, 2003 8:09 am
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Talking about late choices, have a look at Footscray's picks in the 1988 draft
Bulldogs:7:Leon Cameron (172 games)
21:Anthony Reynolds (0)
35: John Georgiades (15)
49: Shannon Corcoran (23)
63: Scott Davies (0)
77: Robert Bloom (0)
86: Ben Sexton (35)
91: Matthew Queen (0)
105: Chris Grant (enough said) Shocked
And by the way, Collingwood was one of the many clubs who overlooked Grant... picks 11,53,67 and 81 played 4 games between them... while Collingwood used 95 to get Tony Francis.... Drafts were pretty weird back then...[/b]

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piedys Taurus

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 24, 2003 12:02 am
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David from Canberra wrote:
Talking about late choices, have a look at Footscray's picks in the 1988 draft
Bulldogs: 105: Chris Grant (enough said) Shocked
Collingwood was one of the many clubs who overlooked Grant
Collingwood used 95 to get Tony Francis.... Drafts were pretty weird back then...


From what i was told, Footscray was the only club even WATCHING Grant play, but there's more to this story than i can remember. Maybe they "hid him" from view?

Tony Francis informed all clubs that he had no intention of crossing to Victoria in 1989, therefore delaying his debut 'til 1990. I remember thinking at the time that was excellent foresight by the club, in picking up a highly recommended SANFL player with a later pick and waiting, as no other club was willing to risk this. Even so, it took a couple of trips across to SA by G.Allen, Matthews and co. to convince him to take the opportunity. Great debut it was too in Perth vs. WCE, suspeneded for 6 weeks trying to kick some sense into Murray Rance! But Tony had the last laugh 6 months later.

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