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ThePieMind
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only 3 players in my opinion were good enough to win the game off their own boot.
Daics
Greening
Carmen
Only One Player could SAVE a game on his own
Billy Picken - not sure I will ever see a more courageous backman, reader of the play with exceptional ability to intercept mark. |
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jimmmy01
Joined: 26 Jun 2006
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never sure if they're the best or just my favs but I always loved watching
Daicos
G. Brown
Swanny
Bucks
Billy Picken
shout out to P Moore, D Banks and D Millaine |
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duke750
Joined: 11 Nov 2005 Location: Buderim QLD
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Greening because he was so balanced and talented, and could do everything.
Daicos because he was so skilful and invented kicking goals from ridiculous positions and angles.
Fabulous Phil, because even though he was a moron, he was so talented.
And...
Peter Moore
Peter McKenna
Tony Shaw
Bucks
Len Thompson
Terry Waters (he was so good, nice to see that Piesnchess mentioned him)
Swannie
Pendles
Billy Picken
And lots more... _________________ Magpies forever.
First Colligwood game: Western Oval 1960 |
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5 from the wing on debut
Joined: 27 May 2016
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ThePieMind wrote: | only 3 players in my opinion were good enough to win the game off their own boot.
Daics
Greening
Carmen
Only One Player could SAVE a game on his own
Billy Picken - not sure I will ever see a more courageous backman, reader of the play with exceptional ability to intercept mark. |
I loved watching Billy. I recall first seeing him taking hangers as a forward on the G either in the under 19's or two's, I can't remember which now but he left a big immediate impression. But, he had to be one of the worst kicks of all time. There was one game at Princes Park where he kicked in after a behind but it went straight to Mark Maclure on the mark who popped it straight back for a goal. I can only imagine what Tommy said. |
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droversdog65
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If you add John Greening (debut 1968) to any Pies side up til 78 (10 year career is reasonable to assume for such a player) and we would have won at least 3 more flags in that time.
YES
He was THAT good, we went so close so often in that period.
Add a fabulous Phil that someone had somehow got to think properly to that mix and the flag tally could easilly have grown to 4 - 5.
YES
Fab was THAT good too.
We had some mighty teams in that period and those two would have made us a powerhouse to make the modern day Bears/Eagles/Cats/Hawks look like schoolyard teams. |
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RudeBoy
Joined: 28 Nov 2005
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droversdog65 wrote: | If you add John Greening (debut 1968) to any Pies side up til 78 (10 year career is reasonable to assume for such a player) and we would have won at least 3 more flags in that time.
YES
He was THAT good, we went so close so often in that period.
Add a fabulous Phil that someone had somehow got to think properly to that mix and the flag tally could easilly have grown to 4 - 5.
YES
Fab was THAT good too.
We had some mighty teams in that period and those two would have made us a powerhouse to make the modern day Bears/Eagles/Cats/Hawks look like schoolyard teams. |
Tru dat. |
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jackcass
Joined: 01 Mar 2005 Location: Bendigo
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droversdog65 wrote: | If you add John Greening (debut 1968) to any Pies side up til 78 (10 year career is reasonable to assume for such a player) and we would have won at least 3 more flags in that time.
YES
He was THAT good, we went so close so often in that period.
Add a fabulous Phil that someone had somehow got to think properly to that mix and the flag tally could easilly have grown to 4 - 5.
YES
Fab was THAT good too.
We had some mighty teams in that period and those two would have made us a powerhouse to make the modern day Bears/Eagles/Cats/Hawks look like schoolyard teams. |
Can't disagree with any of that. |
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Piesnchess
piesnchess
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ThePieMind wrote: | only 3 players in my opinion were good enough to win the game off their own boot.
Daics
Greening
Carmen
Only One Player could SAVE a game on his own
Billy Picken - not sure I will ever see a more courageous backman, reader of the play with exceptional ability to intercept mark. |
Hmmm, and I'm still spitting chips how the hell Billy Pickens son Liam, is at the doggies, I know it has something to do with rookie lists, but young Picken would be very handy right about now. _________________ Poverty exists not because we cannot feed the poor, but because we cannot satisfy the rich.
Chess and Vodka are born brothers. - Russian proverb. |
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droversdog65
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Imagine if you will a forward line with McKenna, Greening and Carmen in it. Absolutely unstoppable, the VFL would have had to start tampering with the rules much earlier than Bartletts interchange bullshit to keep us anywhere near under control.
Anyway off topic Billy (cotton) Picken would have to be one of the most effective (and annoying) backman of his era. |
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jatsad
Joined: 29 May 2010
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I've been watching footy since 1966 and have seen many outstanding players so my five are in order of out and out raw football ability.
1. John Greening - Could do anything on the field. Had 14 Brownlow votes in only 7 games when butchered by O'Dea. One of football's greatest tragedies. Would have been a legend of the game .
2. Phil Carmen - Not far behind Greening. Could mark, kick, run with the best of them. Sadly was a hot head which cost the Pies flags.
3. Peter Daicos - Supremely skilled and the greatest knack for the impossible I've ever seen. Cyril would have been his bitch.
4. Nathan Buckley - The supreme professional and easily the best kick of a ball I've seen, Darren Jarman included.
5. Len Thompson - Changed the way ruckmen played. When somebody changes a genre, so to speak, they're special.
Apologies to modern day greats Scott Penldebury and Dane Swan, also greats. _________________ Jatsad - That is all |
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Darkstranger
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Started watching the game around 1972, toss up between Carmen or Millane. _________________ There is Collingwood and then the rest. |
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stui magpie
Prepare for the worst, hope for the best.
Joined: 03 May 2005 Location: In flagrante delicto
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I only moved to Melbourne in 85, so prior to that my perceptions were from the highlights on TV going back to the mid 70's.
I only had the opportunity to go to regular games from roughly 10 years ago, so again, my perceptions are mostly from TV.
Daics and Moore I loved from when they started. Daics was the magician, Moore the prototype.
Carmen was the second most talented footballer I've ever seen from any team any time. _________________ Every dead body on Mt Everest was once a highly motivated person, so maybe just calm the **** down. |
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Coxie29
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Was born with B&W blood in the 70's, watching since the mid 80's. Best players that I've seen & best matches.
Daics - 13 goals vs the Bears at Carrara, poor Johnny Gastev
Bucks - 2002 GF
Pendles - 2010 GF replay _________________ i don't know how to put this but...
I'm kind of a big deal. |
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Mountains Magpie
Joined: 01 Mar 2005 Location: Somewhere between now and then
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stui magpie wrote: | I only moved to Melbourne in 85, so prior to that my perceptions were from the highlights on TV going back to the mid 70's.
I only had the opportunity to go to regular games from roughly 10 years ago, so again, my perceptions are mostly from TV.
Daics and Moore I loved from when they started. Daics was the magician, Moore the prototype.
Carmen was the second most talented footballer I've ever seen from any team any time. |
Who's first Stui? Ablett Snr? _________________ Spiral progress, unstoppable,
exhausted sources replaced by perversion |
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Pacino
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All the players mentioned are worthy contenders. One thing that has always irked me is that Peter McKenna, the best exponent of the drop kick for goal that has ever played the game gets so little recognition as one of the greatest full forwards. He regularly kicked over 100 goals and in two successive years kicked 136 and 146 goals as I recall. The year he kicked 146 goals he played state football and missed the opportunity of kicking 150 goals as a result. Yet whenever great full forwards are mentioned John Coleman and Peter Hudson get the acknowledgement. It is as though he never played the game. _________________ Carpe Diem |
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