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mandy
Joined: 03 Jun 2001 Location: Glen Iris
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partypie wrote: | The Prototype wrote: | I was meant to start work today, but was told about the pay structure and the working for almost a month unpaid and also possibilities of penalty if a customer cancelled their donations or they couldn't get the money after a certain time. Also a heap of other stuff, I figured that if I was going to be penalised for something I cannot control then it was unfair and I couldn't work with that over my head, so I quit.
It's probably not good to quit like that, but all the costs involved to get me to and from the job, and everything in between I am not doing that if I am not going to get paid if I don't make sales and if there is a threat of penalty I am better off somewhere else. |
That doesn't sound right, might be worth contacting Fairwork or the state labour department. It sounds like a scam, and not going is probably the most sensible thing to do. Dont let the bastards get you down, as my father used to say. |
It's not a scam. Proto wouldn't have been employed by Focus, but rather recruited as an independent contractor. His role on behalf of charities is to go out to the public and "sell" people on the idea of donating on an ongoing basis. Like sign up to pay $10 a month for a year or something like that. He's then paid a percentage of that.
Focus would pay him, but also hold back a bond for 120 days in case that person cancelled their agreement. If the agreement stands, then he gets the bond back. Which makes sense.
It's not a role for everyone, I certainly couldn't stand around a shopping centre all day in a bright t-shirt approaching strangers with a smile on my face asking for their time and money. For every 100 people they approach they probably get rejected 99 times.
But..... having said all that, if you're good at it, it would blow your mind how much money some of these kids make. _________________ #TEAMBUCKS
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HAL
Please don't shout at me - I can't help it.
Joined: 17 Mar 2003
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The Prototype
Paint my face with a good-for-nothin smile.
Joined: 23 Apr 2003 Location: Hobart, Tasmania
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That's right mandy, and I didn't believe it was a scam, or anything just that it wasn't for me and was annoyed that it wasn't told to me before I accepted the role. I had to wait for my training day to find everything out and I guess I was a bit pissed about that.
Waiting three weeks before payment also is a bit hard, with the costs involved in getting to the office, getting out in the field, and getting back to the office every day. It adds up and I already have other bills so I respectfully declined to go any further.
I'm not looking to bad mouth them, I would have liked to have known about all of this last week so I could have made a decision so that they could have gotten someone who this would have been something they could have done.
They do a good thing in the end for charity, which they earn money as well but the charity gets a lot of money from their work, so that works out in the end. It wasn't for me i was a bit annoyed and I am sure they do a lot of good and pay well. Just some of the things I didn't like, that doesn't mean it's all bad just it's not me.
It just came out of nowhere and could have helped all if it was known way before the time came to start training, etc. _________________ Ðavâgé
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mandy
Joined: 03 Jun 2001 Location: Glen Iris
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That's completely understandable how you feel. As I said, it's really not a role for everybody and I'm sure companies do that to give them the best chance of recruiting people. It is a shitty tactic though. _________________ #TEAMBUCKS
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swoop42
Whatcha gonna do when he comes for you?
Joined: 02 Aug 2008 Location: The 18
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The people doing that job bug me anyway.
Hate being hassled outside the front entrance of a supermarket especially as it's not a volunteer position.
My mum has volunteered for the Cancer Council for over 20 years but they just sit at there stall and wait for people to approach them. _________________ He's mad. He's bad. He's MaynHARD! |
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chicken wing
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That's where mobile phones have come in real handy - just hold your phone up to your ear and walk by those people unmolested. |
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Dave The Man
Joined: 01 Apr 2005 Location: Someville, Victoria, Australia
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Hoping in the Shower after my Mum and have to pick up Pubic Hair from the Bottom _________________ I am Da Man |
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Tannin
Can't remember
Joined: 06 Aug 2006 Location: Huon Valley Tasmania
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If it's hair from the bottom, then it isn't a pubic hair, it's an ana .... er .... well, you figure it out. _________________ �Let's eat Grandma.� Commas save lives! |
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Tannin
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Joined: 06 Aug 2006 Location: Huon Valley Tasmania
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chicken wing wrote: | That's where mobile phones have come in real handy - just hold your phone up to your ear and walk by those people unmolested. |
Neat. _________________ �Let's eat Grandma.� Commas save lives! |
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think positive
Side By Side
Joined: 30 Jun 2005 Location: somewhere
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Dave The Man wrote: | Hoping in the Shower after my Mum and have to pick up Pubic Hair from the Bottom |
From the wise one: oops too much data! _________________ You cant fix stupid, turns out you cant quarantine it either! |
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mandy
Joined: 03 Jun 2001 Location: Glen Iris
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swoop42 wrote: | The people doing that job bug me anyway.
Hate being hassled outside the front entrance of a supermarket especially as it's not a volunteer position.
My mum has volunteered for the Cancer Council for over 20 years but they just sit at there stall and wait for people to approach them. |
They bug me too and I'm indirectly in the business.
It's awesome that your Mum has volunteered but unfortunately there's just not enough people like her. And if you see people sitting on their arses not working, then I can assure you they're not getting paid much and neither is the charity. Trust me, I've seen some earnings to contractors go through for as little as $3 a week.
The reality is charities need marketers. All day every in every city and most towns in this country. The kids who do it right make a very decent wage and have amazing prospects to build their own sales and marketing companies down the road and earn the really big bucks. But in doing that, they also raise millions of dollars a year to go towards charities that just wouldn't get the exposure and donations without these companies working for them.
So yeah, they may not be volunteers, but they still do good work. _________________ #TEAMBUCKS
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Dangles
Balmey Army
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Don't like the way shop keepers in food courts hassle you before you've decided if you want to buy something from them or not. The mall management need to have a red line three feet in front of the counters and the shop keepers shouldn't address you until you've crossed it. Seriously, I have enough first world problems I don't need any more. |
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swoop42
Whatcha gonna do when he comes for you?
Joined: 02 Aug 2008 Location: The 18
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chicken wing wrote: | That's where mobile phones have come in real handy - just hold your phone up to your ear and walk by those people unmolested. |
The Dank method.
He's made an art out of it. _________________ He's mad. He's bad. He's MaynHARD! |
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David
I dare you to try
Joined: 27 Jul 2003 Location: Andromeda
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Dave The Man wrote: | Hoping in the Shower after my Mum and have to pick up Pubic Hair from the Bottom |
Dave, you take TMI to a whole new level.
Please never stop. _________________ All watched over by machines of loving grace |
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think positive
Side By Side
Joined: 30 Jun 2005 Location: somewhere
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my boss is a grumpy old &*%$ _________________ You cant fix stupid, turns out you cant quarantine it either! |
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