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Dave The Man
Joined: 01 Apr 2005 Location: Someville, Victoria, Australia
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Post subject: Cloke and White Goal Kicking Holding us Back | |
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We played arguably the top 2 sides in the Competion and we should of beaten both of them.
But our 2 Key Forwards can Kick Straight from a Set Shot in front of Goal.
We can play very well but can’t kick straight we won’t become a Top 4.
Both have had Straight Kicking games but where both against Bad Sides _________________ I am Da Man |
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Pies4shaw
pies4shaw
Joined: 08 Oct 2007
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Collingwood took 15 marks inside 50 tonight. Very few of them were converted. Meanwhile, at the other end, Hawthorn took 10.
Of the Hawthorn players who marked inside 50, apart from Gunston (who kicked 2.4 - but, of course, nobody's mentioning that because Hawthorn won), amongst others Rioli kicked 5.0, Breust kicked 3.0 and Scone-maker kicked 1.0. What that suggests is that Hawthorn were getting the ball into the hands of the right players. At Collingwood, that would normally be Fasolo (whose kicking let him down) and Elliott (who didn't get a mark inside 50 and didn't trouble the scorers).
Cloke and White kicked about the way they kick most weeks (Cloke is sometimes a little better) - the problem seemed to me to be that the Hawks were able to close down all our good kicks for goal, except Fasolo (who, as fate would have it, chose tonight to be hopeless in front of goal). What we need is a better spread of goalkickers - and more players who are able to get into the forward 50 to mark consistently against top-quality opposition teams. |
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eddiesmith
Lets get ready to Rumble
Joined: 23 Nov 2004 Location: Lexus Centre
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So the real issue is Toovey getting raped by Rioli... |
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ronrat
Joined: 22 May 2006 Location: Thailand
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Cloke , fasolo , and white are paid to kick goals. Tonight they have cost us top 4. There is no excuse. _________________ Annoying opposition supporters since 1967. |
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simon tonna
Joined: 24 Oct 2013 Location: carindale
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Post subject: Re: Cloke and White Goal Kicking Holding us Back | |
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Dave The Man wrote: | We played arguably the top 2 sides in the Competion and we should of beaten both of them.
But our 2 Key Forwards can Kick Straight from a Set Shot in front of Goal.
We can play very well but can’t kick straight we won’t become a Top 4.
Both have had Straight Kicking games but where both against Bad Sides |
in a nut shell that is what bucks
was referring to "to be great we need to take our chances". _________________ no second chances |
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Joined: 05 May 2010
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Pies4shaw wrote: | Collingwood took 15 marks inside 50 tonight. Very few of them were converted. Meanwhile, at the other end, Hawthorn took 10.
Of the Hawthorn players who marked inside 50, apart from Gunston (who kicked 2.4 - but, of course, nobody's mentioning that because Hawthorn won), amongst others Rioli kicked 5.0, Breust kicked 3.0 and Scone-maker kicked 1.0. What that suggests is that Hawthorn were getting the ball into the hands of the right players. At Collingwood, that would normally be Fasolo (whose kicking let him down) and Elliott (who didn't get a mark inside 50 and didn't trouble the scorers).
Cloke and White kicked about the way they kick most weeks (Cloke is sometimes a little better) - the problem seemed to me to be that the Hawks were able to close down all our good kicks for goal, except Fasolo (who, as fate would have it, chose tonight to be hopeless in front of goal). What we need is a better spread of goalkickers - and more players who are able to get into the forward 50 to mark consistently against top-quality opposition teams. |
Fatigue plays a role in kicking. Players tend to be more fatigued against better sides. Bear in mind also that White and Cloke both slotted quality goals that could also have been misses so it often evens out (although I agree with the theme of the thread that we could have won the game if we had of kicked straighter). _________________ Ohhh, the Premiership's a cakewalk ....... |
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