Post Match. Swans thump Pies. All comments.

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Sydney won the tackle count by +21 – the worst tackle differential for a Collingwood side under coach Craig McRae.

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Four-time premiership Hawk Jordan Lewis told Fox Footy post-game. “There were countless times when you watched the play unfold and there were players not communicating, players jogging, players that weren’t willing to buy-in defensively.”

Lewis pointed to a passage of play from the fourth quarter where the Swans moved the ball out of half-back and through the middle of the ground with alarming ease. Six Collingwood players were highlighted on the Fox Footy LAB vision jogging through the centre square, with Brayden Maynard and Jordan De Goey even seen completing a casual high-five – a mid-play act that was “hard to believe”, according to Lewis.

“This is where you want Collingwood to be better. It is far too easy (for Sydney) to cut through the middle of the ground. They are ball-watching, there is no communication – there’s even players giving high-fives,” Lewis said.

“That is lazy, that is not being involved in the game, that is not helping your defence.

“They were waiting for the end of the game. I don’t think you say this too often about Collingwood because they’ve been unbelievable about their effort, but they turned up their toes tonight.

“That is hard to cop as a player. When you sit back and see that in the review on a Monday, that is hard to cop.”

Five-time All-Australian Garry Lyon called the high-five “bizarre”, adding he saw an array of Magpies players “going through the motions” throughout the game.

“There was the first outing (against the Giants) as the premier – and that’s what happens, the pressure comes on them and the expectation and they got it handed to them by the Giants – and now they come out here and they really got it handed to them,” Lyon told Fox Footy post-match.

“All through the week, (it was) ‘no one panic’ – and understandably, it’s one game … Now it’s come out and it’s got worse. I think it’s a worse defeat than last week.

“Early on (in the game) there was want and desire – and then it got a little bit too hard.

“Sydney deserve all the credit, because they made Collingwood look ordinary.”

Triple premiership Lion Jonathan Brown put the heat on some of Collingwood’s more experienced players.

“You’ve got to start with the veterans. Some of the veterans are struggling: (Scott) Pendlebury, (Steele) Sidebottom, (Darcy) Moore, (Jack) Crisp – they’ve been ordinary the first fortnight,” Brown told Fox Footy.

“They’re the ones you rely on when you come into a premiership defence, you need those guys to be able to set the standard all the way through – and at the moment, they aren’t able to set the standard for four quarters of a game.”

Seven-time All-Australian Nathan Buckley said the Pies had been “out-transitioned” in two straight matches.

“That’s where the game is. It’s not a static game. They’re in great positions at the start but then the game moves,” he told Fox Footy.

“Sydney, when they team defended tonight, Collingwood weren’t able to work the ball through them because they work so hard as unit and they ran hard to close down space.”

Credit - Fox Sports
https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/teams/collingwood-magpies/afl-news-2024-brayden-maynard-and-jordan-de-goey-high-five-video-jordan-lewis-calls-out-lazy-collingwood-magpies/news-story/32aafc72d7a99c68ab790abd19b00372

[neil]

AJ out thats two games as a substandard forward
Do we have a KPF that is ready to come in?
Sidey started slow last year so am willing to wait a while
Pendles should not be expected to carry the midfield
Markov is in poor form WHE didnt exist Crisp is not having the impact he has always had
Poor first game back from Howe

[inxs88]

[boom]

I'm hoping part of the explanation for the slow start is to try to peak later in the year in terms of fitness etc. Last season we were amazing out of the gates and then tapered off though still got it done thankfully. I'm not ready to buy into the narrative that the old players have irreversibly dropped off, our oldest player was the best player in the last quarter of last season. I'm more concerned that the team on the whole (including the young blokes) doesn't seem to be running both ways or applying the pressure that we have come to expect

[23 YIPPEE!!!]

never thought we should have unfirled the flag last night shoud have left it to next week v saints.
was really premature round 1.
not many premiership- teams do it that early they normally wait till round 3 or 4.

[Take_a_Screamer]

^^^ You can't get a perfect Aiden Begg when he is still developing.
He's been in the system a while, so if he can provide us a with forward focus, now is the time to try him...

I can see our team changing with 5-6 new players this year. Do not hesitate Collingwood, make the changes now and in the next few games (such as Fin Macrae in the side).

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[stoliboy]

I think we can turn it around.

Fly’s last two press conferences have been pretty good at identifying the problems.

However, looking ahead we could easily be 1 - 4 or 0 - 5 after the first 5 rounds. So we have to win next week against St Kilda. Lose that and we are going into the Grand Final rematch in Brisbane looking at a hiding.

It has been an incredibly frustrating last two weeks considering our last two years but we can do it.

[Culprit]

Watched the Saints last night and we will need to turn it around or we will be 0-3. It’s March so no panic stations yet.

[mgh3536]

I reckon we have got the best out of some good ordinary players over past couple years because of the system, now that our system is under pressure and being exploited by all the other teams we are exposed individually.

Cameron, Cox are not frontline rucks they are better than decent.

We are the oldest list which must have an impact against younger stronger opponents our veterans are Sidebottom, Pendlebury, Howe, Cox not known for their strength or physicality 3 are skilled and were elite now better than good.

This group of Elliott, Miocheck, Cameron, Hoskin Elliott, better than honest.

McCreery, Noble, Markov, Mitchel, and Lipinski previously were a crucial part of the high levels of pressure. Still, none of these are stars or highly influenced a game, but as a collective playing their role, very effectively.

We have won so many games by a few points and because we were able to manage the game, the opposition have gone to work and without an upgraded gameplan individual good players are being exposed against teams that have better individual personal...but additionally have picked apart our gameplan.

So lets see if we can recapture our frantic aggressive ball movement or an upgraded version of 2023.

No injuries from Swans game...