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Mr Miyagi 



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PostPosted: Wed Oct 18, 2023 9:52 am
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Any updates on Murph? Last we heard the AFL’s concussion panel was deciding whether he should retire or can play on. I’m hoping the best for Murph regardless of their decision.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 18, 2023 10:13 am
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^indeed. What's the latest? You wouldn't bank on making a granny without him. A super lockdown defender, but you can't double-guess a bloke for wanting to stay conscious and healthy.

You have my support and admiration either way, Murph.

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 18, 2023 10:15 am
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No updates to date. Perhaps not surprising given it'd be a layered decision between the AFL, the Club and Murphy.
While the Club would like to ensure it has contingency plans, I suspect this could stretch into the New Year.

Murphy’s fate could be determined by the AFL’s medical concussion panel

According to The Herald Sun, AFL general counsel Stephen Meade is expected to make a recommendation to Murphy imminently.

The concussion panel earlier this year advised Sydney’s Patrick McCartin to retire after he suffered nine career concussions – including eight at St Kilda.

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https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/teams/collingwood-magpies/afl-2023-nathan-murphy-could-be-forced-to-retire-concussion-history-head-knock-in-grand-final-medical-panel-to-decide-future-collingwood-magpies-latest-news/news-story/f6f19b6524c7642715f69d4fa5caba43

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jonmac1954 



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PostPosted: Wed Oct 18, 2023 10:19 am
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Mr Miyagi wrote:
Any updates on Murph? Last we heard the AFL’s concussion panel was deciding whether he should retire or can play on. I’m hoping the best for Murph regardless of their decision.

Agreed Mr M - for me personally I worry that he has already had enough concussions to put him in the 'at risk' category.

If that's the case and the medico's insist on his immediate retirement I will miss his courage and competitiveness in the backline but hope he has a long and full life after football.

I really do think he is - at best - 1 further concussion off forced retirement.
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pietillidie 



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PostPosted: Wed Oct 18, 2023 10:25 am
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^Thanks again for the on-the-ball update, Laurie. You feel for the lad given his impressively steady rise as a courageous defensive stalwart. Hopefully, the medical analysis is improving such that a relatively precise assessment is made. He's done so incredibly well thus far, and yet you reckon he might have still further progress in him. Such a courageous lad.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 18, 2023 11:05 am
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Potentially a huge story and any progress and updates are deserved of its own thread.
Even if Murph is cleared of any recommendation of a premature retirement, he has a big decision to make. We can only hope he isn’t “ forced “ into a difficult outcome on the back of any findings.
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Mr Miyagi 



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PostPosted: Wed Oct 18, 2023 11:08 am
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LaurieHolden wrote:
No updates to date. Perhaps not surprising given it'd be a layered decision between the AFL, the Club and Murphy.
While the Club would like to ensure it has contingency plans, I suspect this could stretch into the New Year.

Murphy’s fate could be determined by the AFL’s medical concussion panel

According to The Herald Sun, AFL general counsel Stephen Meade is expected to make a recommendation to Murphy imminently.

The concussion panel earlier this year advised Sydney’s Patrick McCartin to retire after he suffered nine career concussions – including eight at St Kilda.

Source :
https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/teams/collingwood-magpies/afl-2023-nathan-murphy-could-be-forced-to-retire-concussion-history-head-knock-in-grand-final-medical-panel-to-decide-future-collingwood-magpies-latest-news/news-story/f6f19b6524c7642715f69d4fa5caba43


Cheers Laurie. I only had Robbo to go off and he didn’t have a date (just imminent).
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 18, 2023 4:44 pm
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Hope he is ok
If still playing next year better wear a helmet

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jonmac1954 



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PostPosted: Wed Oct 18, 2023 4:54 pm
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neil wrote:
Hope he is ok
If still playing next year better wear a helmet

May as well wear an easter bonnet - no headwear protects against concussion.
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stui magpie Gemini

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 18, 2023 5:27 pm
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jonmac1954 wrote:
neil wrote:
Hope he is ok
If still playing next year better wear a helmet

May as well wear an easter bonnet - no headwear protects against concussion.


Correct. The helmet protects the skull but doesn't reduce the impact of the hit, the brain still bounces of the inside of the skull.

What I don't understand is that there already exists energy absorbing foam products, used in innersoles and other things that could be used to make a helmet that dramatically reduces the amount of force applied to the brain. Why has no-one made a purpose designed helmet from that kind of material?

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 18, 2023 5:38 pm
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WE would not want to lose both him and Jack, not the two of em. no way.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 18, 2023 5:40 pm
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stui magpie wrote:
What I don't understand is that there already exists energy absorbing foam products, used in innersoles and other things that could be used to make a helmet that dramatically reduces the amount of force applied to the brain. Why has no-one made a purpose designed helmet from that kind of material?

Alpha male syndrome stui.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 18, 2023 6:57 pm
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A helmet did not do much for Angus Brayshaw.
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What'sinaname Libra



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PostPosted: Wed Oct 18, 2023 7:11 pm
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Given he passed the HIA, why the drama?
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jonmac1954 



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PostPosted: Wed Oct 18, 2023 7:14 pm
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What'sinaname wrote:
Given he passed the HIA, why the drama?

The cumulative effect of his many concussions.

Might not seem a big deal at this stage but if they get it wrong the effect on his and his loved ones lives 20 years down the track is utter devastation.

So yeah it's a thing.
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