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simon tonna
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| eddiesmith wrote: | | Just looking at his name and you know he’ll be a gun 😉 |
Why? Because he’s the love child of gubby and Maguire.
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masoncox
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| Cam wrote: | | I always grimace when the Pies get a 'steal' that is overcoming major injury as a junior. |
Yes it was the first thing that went thru my mind! |
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Skids 
Quitting drinking will be one of the best choices you make in your life.
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| bucking awesome wrote: | | Maybe Ive been a Collingwood supporter too long and am naturally pressimistic but I thought it was interesting that every other player did an interview with fox footy either at the venue or via zoom except Ed. Was he that pissed off about WC or the Hawks not selecting him or am I reading too much into it. I hope its the latter. |
There was an interview with him and his old man on the news over here last night.
Ben said they hadn't even really considered Collingwood but he was "extremely happy that the biggest club in the country had picked up Ed"
From a report a few days before being drafted...
While the return of Luke Jackson to West Australia was a reminder of the risks interstate clubs take in drafting such players, Allan instead has grown accustomed to the likelihood he’ll be packing his bags once draft night is done.
“Being from WA, you kind of know if you’re going to get picked up you’ll probably have to move interstate. You kind of come to terms with it,” he said.
“I’m obviously happy to go anywhere if anyone gave me the opportunity.”
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Pies2016
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Just to add some balance to pick 19 of a speculative draft, I dug a little deeper to find some of the noted knocks on the kid. This is not me potting him because as a very late first rounder, I think the chance to secure him was to good to refuse but his medium term back injury means the sample size was small.
His Combine results were off the charts ( hence the rapid rise in rankings ) and his pedigree is first class. Conversely, the areas he needs to work on are strength over the ball and composure and decision making with ball in hand. All players have weaknesses to work on and this kid is no different but any comparisons to any current superstars are a bit premature. Right now he plays more like Reef McInnes than he does Cripps or Bont. |
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skaman 
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We also had Allan Edwards, #8.now Edward Alllan. Coincidence.. i think not. Reverse “Butch”(Allan Edwards nickname), hope that dosnt make him “Nancy”.
( ok enough internet for me today)
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LaurieHolden 
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According to Draft Central ~ https://www.draftguru.com.au/analysis/pick-value-comparison
So with Ed Allan coming at at pick 19, what do the historical draft stat's tell us ~
Picks 11 to 20 (Players picked 190)
Age Average 18.1
Career Games Average 120.3
Club Games Average 93.0
Brownlow Votes Average 17.0
Average Years to Play a 20 Game Season 7.2
Average Years to Get Past 50 Games 7.1
Games ~ Picks 11 to 20 (Players Picked 190)
100+ 47%
120+ 44%
140+ 38%
160+ 36%
180+ 33%
200+ 27%
220+ 20%
240+ 16%
260+ 12%
280+ 9%
300+ 6%
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Mr Miyagi
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| The interview from WA doesn’t fill me with much confidence he’ll even be a 50 game Collingwood player. He’ll be at Hawthorn or back in WA in 2-3 years. |
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LaurieHolden
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| Mr Miyagi wrote: | | The interview from WA doesn’t fill me with much confidence he’ll even be a 50 game Collingwood player. He’ll be at Hawthorn or back in WA in 2-3 years. |
In an attempt to mitigate any go home factor, do we consider taking another Claremont or W.A lad that Allan would have played his junior footy with?
Our exisitng W.A lads are Tom Mitchelll (Claremont), Darcy Cameron (Claremont), Bobby Hill (Perth), Bill Frampton (South Fremantle), Trey ruscoe (East Fremantle).
We have 28,30,47. I'd like us to grab both of the remaining Claremont lads, Sam Gilbey and Hugh Davies. Davies at 197cm offers KPD potential, models himself on Darcy Moore.
https://thewest.com.au/sport/afl-draft/afl-draft-2022-claremont-draft-fancy-hugh-davies-learns-from-west-coast-great-eric-mackenzie-at-christ-church-c-8678838
Gilbey could be a Howe replacement down the line with both offering us the potential to bolster our defensive stocks from 2025 onwards. I'd be rapt if we make a move on both of them.
WCE have picks 23,29
Freo 33
Cal Twomey's Phantom Draft ~
30. Sam Gilbey (Claremont)
A medium intercept marking defender, Gilbey is an exceptional reader of the ball in flight who not only gets to the right spots behind the ball to take intercept marks but also displays sticky hands overhead. Despite his light frame, he absorbs opposition contact well and holds onto his marks. An athletic defender who moves well, Gilbey is a capable rebounder and sound ball user.
33.Darcy Jones - Swan Districts (WA)
A small but speedy outside midfielder, Jones breaks the lines and takes on the game with an unmatched level of dash and dare, displaying rare speed and agility. Breaking the record in the agility test during this year's AFL Draft combine, while Jones plays a high impact-per-possession game, he also finds and wins a good amount of his own ball.
44. Jed Hagan - East Fremantle (WA)
A small, speedy impact player, Hagan possesses the versatility to play forward, back or through the midfield. An advanced player for his age who earned eight WAFL League games this year, Hagan possesses a neat burst of speed, is a composed and reliable kick who is a capable contested ball winner for his size and particularly excels winning loose balls.
45. Kaleb Smith - East Fremantle (WA)
A star during the WA state combine, Smith won the 20m sprint and placed third in the agility test. One of this draft's most damaging rebounding defenders, Smith is a line breaker with speed and power who aggressively takes on the game with ball in hand and hurts opposition sides with his penetrating kick.
55. Hugh Davies - Claremont (WA)
An excellent reader of the ball in flight, Davies is one of the premier intercept marking key defenders in this draft as a high leaper who is a strong overhead mark. Displaying composure with ball in hand, Davies is a clean and reliable rebounder from defence.
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inxs88
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Father Ben is on SEN and effusive that Ed would go on to be a 10 year Pies player with zero flight risk 
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masoncox
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What Cal Twomey thought of Ed before the draft.
194cm/83kg
26/5/04
Claremont/Western Australia
Midfielder
October ranking: 18
It is impossible to ignore Allan's back half of the season and just as hard not to wonder where he would be ranked if he didn't miss the first half of the season through injury. The 194cm midfielder is a very unique draft option for clubs – he's played on the wing and in the midfield and that's where he seems himself, and he dominated the Draft Combine testing. Could he be a Mark Blicavs-play-anywhere type of prospect?
Where does he go? Geelong has shown interest in him, with the Western Bulldogs and West Coast also considered chances in the opening dozen selections. Melbourne has been linked, while the Giants could also consider in the teens. It's hard to see him being available at the Eagles' third pick (No.20).
MAKING MOVES Unique son of a gun shapes as draft's late riser |
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Mr Miyagi
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| inxs88 wrote: | | Father Ben is on SEN and effusive that Ed would go on to be a 10 year Pies player with zero flight risk |
He goneski then 😂 |
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Johnno75
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Imagine when he puts on 10-12kg. Plays through the midfield but might even pinch hit in the ruck or rest forward as a marking target.
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swoop42 
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The Collingwood romantic in me has been waiting 25 years to see what Lee Walker could have been without those knees of his.
Yeah sure Ed is projected to be more of a midfield option but if adds a couple of more centimetres and continues to fill out over the next few years then this tall, athletically gifted West Australian with the sun bleached brown hair more than fits the bill.
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| Pies2016 wrote: | Just to add some balance to pick 19 of a speculative draft, I dug a little deeper to find some of the noted knocks on the kid. This is not me potting him because as a very late first rounder, I think the chance to secure him was to good to refuse but his medium term back injury means the sample size was small.
His Combine results were off the charts ( hence the rapid rise in rankings ) and his pedigree is first class. Conversely, the areas he needs to work on are strength over the ball and composure and decision making with ball in hand. All players have weaknesses to work on and this kid is no different but any comparisons to any current superstars are a bit premature. Right now he plays more like Reef McInnes than he does Cripps or Bont. |
I dunno. He's got a bad back like Cripps |
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