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Pies4shaw Leo

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PostPosted: Sat Dec 03, 2022 8:54 am
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Australian soccer guides, number 14: "How to defeat Argentina at the World Cup".

https://www.fifa.com/fifaplus/en/watch/7CdzLbiTi9CNHfG1gmpGGJ?cid=(p_go-box)(c_FIFAPlus)(sc_archive)(ssc_)(da_)(co_)(cc_)&s_cid=(co_)(cc_)&c=(c_FIFAPlus)(sc_archive)(ssc_)(cc_)&pid=(p_go-box)(ch_)(t_)

We've got a number 14, too, right? I mean, that's just a number for a substitute?
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 03, 2022 5:59 pm
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sb World Cup 2022 Outrights [all countries have played 3 matches -- on to KOs now!]

Brazil 3.30
Argentina 5.00
France 6.00
Spain 7.00
England 9.00
Portugal 12.00
Netherlands 19.00
Croatia 31.00
Japan 56.00
Switzerland 81.00
Morocco, USA 91.00
Senegal 126.00
Australia 201.00
Poland South Korea 251.00
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 03, 2022 6:01 pm
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K wrote:
Jezza wrote:
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Iran ๐Ÿ‡ฎ๐Ÿ‡ท vs USA ๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ธ
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Australia ๐Ÿ‡ฆ๐Ÿ‡บ vs Denmark ๐Ÿ‡ฉ๐Ÿ‡ฐ
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These are now KO matches.
USA must win to get through. So must Denmark.
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USA did. Denmark didn't.


pietillidie wrote:
Yes! Aussies through to the round of 16! What a gem of a goal from Leckie to get through. Well worth a look even if you're not a soccer fan.

Both the Duke and Leckie goals were high quality starting from the back.


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Great night for Australian football.

Looking forward to the Argentina match.

Yep. What a nice surprise (from low pre-tournament expectations) to get to the KO stage. OTOH not a surprise for me from pre-Denmark expectations... But I was counting on a draw being enough! Not on France fielding a 2nd team and losing.
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 03, 2022 6:24 pm
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Spain and England have shortened after their big wins. Are they the real deal? Or just Steve Smith-like flat-track bullies and downhill skiers?
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Spain 1-1 Germany.
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The commentator said Spain & Germany are both "works in progress". They had their moments...

Wowee... Spain 1-2 Japan. Shocked But the real pain was felt by Germany, who 'cos of Spain's loss were knocked out. And it was Spain's FTBing v. Costa Rica & huge GD that got them safely through. Laughing

Huge shocks in all 3 of Japan's matches (wins v. Germany & Spain, loss v. Costa Rica). If Spain have been like flat-track bully Smith, Japan have been like Pakistan??


Huge controversy about the leadup to Japan's 2nd goal, i.e. whether the ball was over the line (out of play). VAR said it wasn't. From what I saw, I agree with VAR. Not all of the ball was over the line. But don't they have microchips in the ball?? That was supposed to fix whether it crossed the goal line. Question
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 03, 2022 8:38 pm
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Final round of the group stage results:

Tuesday, November 29 2022:
Ecuador ๐Ÿ‡ช๐Ÿ‡จ 1-2 Senegal ๐Ÿ‡ธ๐Ÿ‡ณ
Netherlands ๐Ÿ‡ณ๐Ÿ‡ฑ 2-0 Qatar ๐Ÿ‡ถ๐Ÿ‡ฆ
Wales ๐Ÿด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ท๓ ฌ๓ ณ๓ ฟ 0-3 England ๐Ÿด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ
Iran ๐Ÿ‡ฎ๐Ÿ‡ท 0-1 USA ๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ธ

Wednesday, November 30 2022:
Poland ๐Ÿ‡ต๐Ÿ‡ฑ 0-2 Argentina ๐Ÿ‡ฆ๐Ÿ‡ท
Saudi Arabia ๐Ÿ‡ธ๐Ÿ‡ฆ 1-2 Mexico ๐Ÿ‡ฒ๐Ÿ‡ฝ
Australia ๐Ÿ‡ฆ๐Ÿ‡บ 1-0 Denmark ๐Ÿ‡ฉ๐Ÿ‡ฐ
Tunisia ๐Ÿ‡น๐Ÿ‡ณ 1-0 France ๐Ÿ‡ซ๐Ÿ‡ท

Thursday, December 1 2022:
Japan ๐Ÿ‡ฏ๐Ÿ‡ต 2-1 Spain ๐Ÿ‡ช๐Ÿ‡ธ
Costa Rica ๐Ÿ‡จ๐Ÿ‡ท 2-4 Germany ๐Ÿ‡ฉ๐Ÿ‡ช
Canada ๐Ÿ‡จ๐Ÿ‡ฆ 1-2 Morocco ๐Ÿ‡ฒ๐Ÿ‡ฆ
Croatia ๐Ÿ‡ญ๐Ÿ‡ท 0-0 Belgium ๐Ÿ‡ง๐Ÿ‡ช

Friday, December 2 2022:
Serbia ๐Ÿ‡ท๐Ÿ‡ธ 2-3 Switzerland ๐Ÿ‡จ๐Ÿ‡ญ
Cameroon ๐Ÿ‡จ๐Ÿ‡ฒ 1-0 Brazil ๐Ÿ‡ง๐Ÿ‡ท
South Korea ๐Ÿ‡ฐ๐Ÿ‡ท 2-1 Portugal ๐Ÿ‡ต๐Ÿ‡น
Ghana ๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ญ 0-2 Uruguay ๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡พ

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PostPosted: Sat Dec 03, 2022 8:42 pm
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Final group stage ladder

Group A:
1). Netherlands ๐Ÿ‡ณ๐Ÿ‡ฑ = 7
2). Senegal ๐Ÿ‡ธ๐Ÿ‡ณ = 6
3). Ecuador ๐Ÿ‡ช๐Ÿ‡จ = 4
4). Qatar ๐Ÿ‡ถ๐Ÿ‡ฆ = 0

Group B:
1). England ๐Ÿด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ = 7
2). USA ๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ธ = 5
3). Iran ๐Ÿ‡ฎ๐Ÿ‡ท = 3
4). Wales ๐Ÿด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ท๓ ฌ๓ ณ๓ ฟ = 1

Group C:
1). Argentina ๐Ÿ‡ฆ๐Ÿ‡ท = 6
2). Poland ๐Ÿ‡ต๐Ÿ‡ฑ = 4
3). Mexico ๐Ÿ‡ฒ๐Ÿ‡ฝ = 4
4). Saudi Arabia ๐Ÿ‡ธ๐Ÿ‡ฆ = 3

Group D:
1). France ๐Ÿ‡ซ๐Ÿ‡ท = 6
2). Australia ๐Ÿ‡ฆ๐Ÿ‡บ = 6
3). Tunisia ๐Ÿ‡น๐Ÿ‡ณ = 4
4). Denmark ๐Ÿ‡ฉ๐Ÿ‡ฐ = 1

Group E:
1). Japan ๐Ÿ‡ฏ๐Ÿ‡ต = 6
2). Spain ๐Ÿ‡ช๐Ÿ‡ธ = 4
3). Germany ๐Ÿ‡ฉ๐Ÿ‡ช = 4
4). Costa Rica ๐Ÿ‡จ๐Ÿ‡ท = 3

Group F:
1). Morocco ๐Ÿ‡ฒ๐Ÿ‡ฆ = 7
2). Croatia ๐Ÿ‡ญ๐Ÿ‡ท = 5
3). Belgium ๐Ÿ‡ง๐Ÿ‡ช = 4
4). Canada ๐Ÿ‡จ๐Ÿ‡ฆ = 0

Group G:
1). Brazil ๐Ÿ‡ง๐Ÿ‡ท = 6
2). Switzerland ๐Ÿ‡จ๐Ÿ‡ญ = 6
3). Cameroon ๐Ÿ‡จ๐Ÿ‡ฒ = 4
4). Serbia ๐Ÿ‡ท๐Ÿ‡ธ = 1

Group H:
1). Portugal ๐Ÿ‡ต๐Ÿ‡น = 6
2). South Korea ๐Ÿ‡ฐ๐Ÿ‡ท = 4
3). Uruguay ๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡พ = 4
4). Ghana ๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ญ = 3

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PostPosted: Sat Dec 03, 2022 8:46 pm
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Round of 16 matches:

Saturday, December 3 2022:
Netherlands ๐Ÿ‡ณ๐Ÿ‡ฑ vs USA ๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ธ
Argentina ๐Ÿ‡ฆ๐Ÿ‡ท vs Australia ๐Ÿ‡ฆ๐Ÿ‡บ

Sunday, December 4 2022:
France ๐Ÿ‡ซ๐Ÿ‡ท vs Poland ๐Ÿ‡ต๐Ÿ‡ฑ
England ๐Ÿด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ vs Senegal ๐Ÿ‡ธ๐Ÿ‡ณ

Monday, December 5 2022:
Japan ๐Ÿ‡ฏ๐Ÿ‡ต vs Croatia ๐Ÿ‡ญ๐Ÿ‡ท
Brazil ๐Ÿ‡ง๐Ÿ‡ท vs South Korea ๐Ÿ‡ฐ๐Ÿ‡ท

Tuesday, December 6 2022:
Morocco ๐Ÿ‡ฒ๐Ÿ‡ฆ vs Spain ๐Ÿ‡ช๐Ÿ‡ธ
Portugal ๐Ÿ‡ต๐Ÿ‡น vs Switzerland ๐Ÿ‡จ๐Ÿ‡ญ

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PostPosted: Sat Dec 03, 2022 8:51 pm
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pietillidie wrote:
^That's it, 93.

I was also at the infamous Iran qualifier in I think 97 at the MCG when Australia were cruising something like 3-0 and a serial streaker disrupted the game by swinging on the cross bar, after which the Socceroos collapsed and were beaten on the away goals rule!

Have I mentioned the one where I watched a game near a castle in the south of Germany at the 2006 WC? We watched Australia vs. Japan at a pub near a famous castle, the name of which I forget, and an entire bus load of Japanese tourists arrived to do the same. Timmy Cahill scored a brace and boy did I let them know it. I was lucky to get out alive!

The only actual WC game I've seen live was Germany vs. Paraguay on Jeju Island at the Korea/Japan WC in 2002.

2026 might be a good chance to visit Canada, I reckon, avoiding the dangerous third-world hosts to the south!

You've been around the block, PTID Wink

My first proper Socceroos memory is when we played France in a friendly at the MCG and then Uruguay over two legs to try and qualify for the 2002 World Cup.

I was just a bit too young to remember 1997, but everyone I know says they couldn't believe we missed out against Iran. We were dominating until the serial streaker interrupted our momentum.

In the lead up to the 2006 World Cup, I remember attending a friendly match against Greece at the MCG on a Thursday night. 95,000 people attended that night.

I'm quite invested in this team because an old school peer of mine (Jackson Irvine) is a regular in the Socceroos team. Seeing him play at the highest level is surreal to me.

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PostPosted: Sun Dec 04, 2022 1:53 am
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^Nice. I think that Iran game was also in the 90,000s. Incredible atmosphere.

I can tell you, you won't regret planning now for 2026 in North America. Soccer is obviously not huge there, but it's an easy destination and a good tourism spot, so millions will head there. The party atmosphere is incredible. It's a bonus if the Socceroos make it, but you'll still love it even if not.

Qatar is obviously the wrong kind of destination for a month-long party, but the two I've been to, Korea and Germany, were mad.

But for 2026, you'll have the pick of Canada, the US and Mexico, or all three, in a single trip.

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PostPosted: Sun Dec 04, 2022 7:17 am
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I'm very sad. That second goal, now, was just embarrassing. The sort of garbage you see from defenders in the EPL.
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No shame in that. Happy to make them nervous at the end and for Messi to score against them.
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 04, 2022 11:01 am
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Lucky for us we didn't get through. Argentina has Messi surrounded by a lot of average players. The Dutch have about 15 guns in their squad. The USA were probably relieved not to have had 5 or 6 put past them - but Depay isn't quite match-fit, yet.
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Woohooooo England!
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 06, 2022 7:45 pm
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Media heat on Cahill:

Why Tim Cahill has cast an awkward shadow over Socceroosโ€™ Qatar success

https://www.smh.com.au/sport/soccer/why-tim-cahill-has-cast-an-awkward-shadow-over-socceroos-qatar-success-20221206-p5c3x8.html

"Now 42, Cahill is the chief sports officer at the Aspire Academy, the glistening $1.3 billion facility where the Socceroos spent almost every second of their visit to Doha... The reality is they wouldnโ€™t have got in there without Cahill.

Other teams stayed in hotels and bussed to training grounds, while Graham Arnold and his players got to do everything in the same location: eat, sleep, train, repeat. ...

It was also adjacent to the high-tech Aspetar sports medicine hospital, one of the most advanced of its kind in the world, where Australia took their increasingly important recovery sessions. It almost certainly handed the Socceroos an edge in high-performance, which you could see in their 2-1 defeat to Argentina - it was basically the same starting XI that Arnold had rolled out in every match, and having played only 76 hours earlier, they should have been gassed. But they werenโ€™t, and took Lionel Messiโ€™s men to the wire.
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tโ€™s a topic they truly care about so it must have been raised at some point, although itโ€™s easy to understand why Cahill could have been avoiding the conversation: he is a paid-up ambassador of the Qatarโ€™s Supreme Committee of Delivery & Legacy, the government arm tasked with organising the World Cup and named like some sort of villainous organisation seeking to assassinate James Bond."
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Spain and England have shortened after their big wins. Are they the real deal? Or just Steve Smith-like flat-track bullies and downhill skiers?
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Well, well... England still in it. (England 3-0 Senegal.) But Spain out. (Spain 0 (0)- 0 (3) Morocco.) Shocking penalty shootouts from Spain and Japan. (Croatia 1 (3)-1 (1) Japan.) Shocked


And now Portugal's turn to shorten after a big win.
Portugal 6-1 Switzerland.

Again... Are they the real deal? Or just Steve Smith-like flat-track bullies? They've got an "easy" game next against Morocco. France or England if they win that.
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