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Piesnchess
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| watt price tully wrote: | | Piesnchess wrote: | | Mr Miyagi wrote: | | We can’t replace him, he’s a bit unique. We just get another ruck and adjust our game accordingly |
I am utterly disgusted by this insane decision. its fuckinginsane. God help us, if next season we have only Cameron, Cox, and kid Begg, as rucks. If , heaven forbid, Cox goes down, injured, long term, all we have is Cameron and a kid who got smashed in the ruck early this season, is far too raw. If that happens, we can damn well forget bout top four next season. Forget it, we wont make it then. Just utter madness, the Deees must be rubbing their hands with glee, at prospect of him and Gawn, running around, dominating the field of play.
Wrights first big major cockup, if this comes to pass.     |
Don’t blame Wright. Blame the previous administration for the contract clusterf*ck of Grundy and Treloar. |
Treloar is NO Grundy. How come none of this sort of shit happens down at bloody Geelong, dont they have a salary cap at sleepy Hollow, whose cooking the books down there, ? why does only us, get salary cap woes. ?? that continue for ages, ?? does not add up at all.
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Previous admin stuffed up Grundy contract saga and it’s come back to bite us on the arse
Need all of this sorted asap as well
Preferably this week
Then we move on |
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Previous admin stuffed up Grundy contract saga and it’s come back to bite us on the arse
Need all of this sorted asap as well
Preferably this week
Then we move on |
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burnsy17 
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How do we replace Grundy??
Like almost every other premiership team does…. With a second stringer on $500k a year!
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Piesnchess
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How do we replace Grundy ???? WE DONT. AND CANT.
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tbaker
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| burnsy17 wrote: | How do we replace Grundy??
Like almost every other premiership team does…. With a second stringer on $500k a year! |
So instead of paying 500k for a 2nd stringer, would we be prepared to pay 700k for the likes of Grundy? Because that's in effect what it would cost us to keep him, if the rumours are true in that we're paying the remaining 300k regardless. Looking at it like that, it seems crazy to get rid of him.
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Piesnchess
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^ You make too much commonsense for here.
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watt price tully 
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| Piesnchess wrote: | | watt price tully wrote: | | Piesnchess wrote: | | Mr Miyagi wrote: | | We can’t replace him, he’s a bit unique. We just get another ruck and adjust our game accordingly |
I am utterly disgusted by this insane decision. its fuckinginsane. God help us, if next season we have only Cameron, Cox, and kid Begg, as rucks. If , heaven forbid, Cox goes down, injured, long term, all we have is Cameron and a kid who got smashed in the ruck early this season, is far too raw. If that happens, we can damn well forget bout top four next season. Forget it, we wont make it then. Just utter madness, the Deees must be rubbing their hands with glee, at prospect of him and Gawn, running around, dominating the field of play.
Wrights first big major cockup, if this comes to pass. |
Don’t blame Wright. Blame the previous administration for the contract clusterf*ck of Grundy and Treloar. |
Treloar is NO Grundy. How come none of this sort of shit happens down at bloody Geelong, dont they have a salary cap at sleepy Hollow, whose cooking the books down there, ? why does only us, get salary cap woes. ?? that continue for ages, ?? does not add up at all. |
The issue has been discussed here ad nauseum. This issue about the contracts and cost is not just about money but about flexibility to move fwd. Keeping him costs $. Getting rid of him is cheaper but more to the point provides flexibility with respect to future trading and picks.
The issue with Treloar was the contract as it is with Grundy. Whether he is better than, less than is not relevant. The focus is on the value (not just cost) that’s why the previous administration stuffed up.
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MAY-Z
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Boyd is clearly the number 1 ruck in the SANFL, dominant at both CB and around the ground
Strachaun from the crows is number 2
but the question isnt really how do we replace him, as he wasnt really part of the team this year, the question is are we better of bolstering the midfield to help with clearances or trying to get the most out of a very very expensive ruck
clearly the club have decided an extra mid is better, and personally i agree with them, the majority of the leagues rucks just need to be competitive and let the ball winners go to work |
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Piesnchess
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| watt price tully wrote: | | Piesnchess wrote: | | watt price tully wrote: | | Piesnchess wrote: | | Mr Miyagi wrote: | | We can’t replace him, he’s a bit unique. We just get another ruck and adjust our game accordingly |
I am utterly disgusted by this insane decision. its fuckinginsane. God help us, if next season we have only Cameron, Cox, and kid Begg, as rucks. If , heaven forbid, Cox goes down, injured, long term, all we have is Cameron and a kid who got smashed in the ruck early this season, is far too raw. If that happens, we can damn well forget bout top four next season. Forget it, we wont make it then. Just utter madness, the Deees must be rubbing their hands with glee, at prospect of him and Gawn, running around, dominating the field of play.
Wrights first big major cockup, if this comes to pass. |
Don’t blame Wright. Blame the previous administration for the contract clusterf*ck of Grundy and Treloar. |
Treloar is NO Grundy. How come none of this sort of shit happens down at bloody Geelong, dont they have a salary cap at sleepy Hollow, whose cooking the books down there, ? why does only us, get salary cap woes. ?? that continue for ages, ?? does not add up at all. |
The issue has been discussed here ad nauseum. This issue about the contracts and cost is not just about money but about flexibility to move fwd. Keeping him costs $. Getting rid of him is cheaper but more to the point provides flexibility with respect to future trading and picks.
The issue with Treloar was the contract as it is with Grundy. Whether he is better than, less than is not relevant. The focus is on the value (not just cost) that’s why the previous administration stuffed up. |
Whatever, I just hope an pray, we dont see him running around the MCG, next too Gawn, happy as Larry, holding a Premiership cup. The ultimate Collingwood nightmare scenario.
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watt price tully
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^ Join the queue. We all feel that. Would be nice but unrealistic that he accepts a pay cut.
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Meredith1965
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Grundy is a good footballer, but his key card is that he adds an extra half-mid at clearance. If we get an actual high quality extra mid for the 800k differential, (and we should at that price), I can understand the decision.
Cox seems to me an excellent ruckman who takes marks around the ground at critical points in games and has not been developed to his full potential may well have three or four years left,with Cameron as back up. |
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MAY-Z
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| Meredith1965 wrote: | Grundy is a good footballer, but his key card is that he adds an extra half-mid at clearance. If we get an actual high quality extra mid for the 800k differential, (and we should at that price), I can understand the decision.
Cox seems to me an excellent ruckman who takes marks around the ground at critical points in games and has not been developed to his full potential may well have three or four years left,with Cameron as back up. |
yep, and also don't forget how good Cameron was early on in the ruck role, he wasn't as good late but that was his first extended period playing 1st ruck. He will be much fitter for that and will probably train pre-season for a ruck role not a fwd/ruck role |
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Pies2016
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| MAY-Z wrote: | | Meredith1965 wrote: | Grundy is a good footballer, but his key card is that he adds an extra half-mid at clearance. If we get an actual high quality extra mid for the 800k differential, (and we should at that price), I can understand the decision.
Cox seems to me an excellent ruckman who takes marks around the ground at critical points in games and has not been developed to his full potential may well have three or four years left,with Cameron as back up. |
yep, and also don't forget how good Cameron was early on in the ruck role, he wasn't as good late but that was his first extended period playing 1st ruck. He will be much fitter for that and will probably train pre-season for a ruck role not a fwd/ruck role |
Yes. An important observation re cameron and Cox both having a better understanding of their roles next year. |
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eddiesmith 
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| Why do we need to replace him with a similar or better ruckman? We just made a prelim without him so it’s not like he’s a big loss 🤷♂️ |
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