My coach is bigger than your coach

[RudeBoy]

Yawn.

[Uncle Jack]

I don't know why this has to be so binary. He seems to have either been the worst coach ever or a supremely unlucky genius depending on your view point. We lost a bunch of very tight games last year, and this year we've won them all. Reverse that and he might still be coaching.

[Meredith1965]

[Piesnchess]

^ Well said, and i might add, Bucks never really had a fully fit list to choose from, chronic long term injuries dogged his entire coaching career, massive injury lists to key players. To call him our worst coach ever is just insane, sorrry that belongs to Tony Shaw, who took us to a wooden spoon, great player, but a terrible coach. Bucks did his best with what he had fit and available, and gave it his best shot, but sadly, just fell short in 2018. A sldiing doors moment in the clubs history, and his. He left with dignity, haters can hate him, but i wont ever, he was a champion player, one of our best ever. Im done now, i wont participate any longer in this discussion, not with two bob fools who pass judgement on a club icon, and smear his name with innuendo and lies. Im done, dont bother replying, i wont read it, im done.

[RudeBoy]

Well said pnc.

[Pies4shaw]

I neither know, nor care. I'm just very pleased he has gone - because I found the gamestyle so thoroughly unwatchable that he turned me from a Legends member to a guy who hasn't been to a game of live football for 7 years. That was a good effort - if you'd told me, before 2012, that there would ever be a time I wouldn't want to be the first into the ground every match day, I would have said you were crazy. That's a legacy, of sorts.

[think positive]

The title really needs neh neh neh-neh neh added to it

[jatsad]

[eddiesmith]

I’m pretty sure 2018 was the only one of Buckley’s 10 years the club didn’t go backwards from the year before.

The whole football department was a debacle during his tenure.

[Crimson Mask]

Pies4shaw wrote (in another thread):
In my opinion, McRae's contribution isn't aptly captured just by the results - howsoever dramatically improved they may be. The team is, in addition, infinitely better to watch under the new game plan - not just because they're winning more but because the new approach allows players to express themselves and demonstrate their flair. Previously, Collingwood could not expect to be competitive unless it won the stoppages and the contested possessions handsomely. It was dour, hideous stuff and it wore the good players down - there was nothing at all to take away from a Collingwood game unless the team won.

Now, we have genuine clips for the highlights reel every game and from a variety of players. In short, Collingwood is watchable, again.


this x 100000000000000
Illustrates in a nutshell why Buckley was a shit coach.
Structured the team to within an inch of their life.
Routinely overcoached
And most importantly sucked the joy and spark out of his side.

Although not a student of psychology, I feel that there's a direct correlation between playing attacking football and belief, self confidence, self esteem, positivity and contentment.

Under the uber conservative, risk averse and negative Buckley game plan, I firmly believe that it had an adverse impact on mindset, self belief and self worth. Sort of like having the players believe that they have to play in this fashion as they're not good enough to play with flair and instinctively.

The fact that McRae has been able to seamlessly integrate an attacking game plan into this team, suggests that they have far more talent than Buckley ever gave them credit for, and reflects badly on Nathan's capabilities as a coach.

[lazzadesilva]

[Johnno75]

Bucks won 10 in a row in his first season so has fly this year.

Wanna compare the 2 teams?

[dalyc]

[RudeBoy]

[Pies4shaw]

Here's the 2012 list of 18 players who actually took to the park for at least 20 games for Collingwood that season (listed from most - 25 - to least - 20 - games). I've bolded the players who would certainly get a game in the present side on their then form:

Cloke, Travis
Beams, Dayne
Fasolo, Alex
Sidebottom, Steele
Lumumba, Heritier
Blair, Jarryd
Dawes, Chris
Goldsack, Tyson
Toovey, Alan
Swan, Dane
Pendlebury, Scott
Shaw, Heath
Thomas, Dale
Sinclair, Ben
Wellingham, Sharrod
Jolly, Darren
Maxwell, Nick
Reid, Ben

Not too many poor players in that lot, at that time. And almost no new faces. Only the 3 midfielders (Beams, Pendlebury and Swan) named in the all-Australian team for 2012, though.