Brodie Grundy positional change?

[Pies4shaw]

^ eddiesmith has no actual idea - he thinks De Goey is a gun and Grundy isn't. That's all you need to know.

[Pies2016]

^ ^ ^
Well the love for Cox will surely only grow after he likely lines up on Keefe in the ruck against the Giants ( pending a test on second choice ruckman Flynn, this week ) That’s not Cox fault, he can only compete against who is put in front of him but some would do well to keep his “ good fortune “ in perspective. Matching or beating the best ruckman in the comp for a number of years is a very different exercise to knocking over a back up ruckman and an injured first choice ruckman in consecutive weeks.
I’m looking forward to Cox competing against a fully fit Witts in a fortnight. Win or break even in that battle and Cox will deserve some credit for an unlikely revival. Until then, I’m happy to wait on passing any judgement.

[Cam]

Cameron statistically is a better contested mark than Grundy, and kicks more goals although that could be simply because he is playing forward more often. However in the ruck position, this season only, Grundy averages double the hitouts of Cameron and triple that of Cox, double their inside 50s, double their clearances.

Grundy wears down the opposition rucks as well, I guess you could say Cox did that against Gawn as well. Grundy does it every week, even when he is not shining himself he is still a physical presence in packs. He can also tear a game apart, doing it regularly over his career.

If Grundy didn't have the price tag people wouldn't even be mentioning him as being a negative. He's a gun and a warrior. I like what Cameron and Cox are bringing but I expect Reg to feel the competition and come back and within a few games return to the level of the last quarter he played, on ANZAC day.

[RudeBoy]

Well said Cam.

[RudeBoy]

DP

[stui magpie]

[RudeBoy]

Let's be perfectly clear. Grundy is one of the top 3 ruckmen in the AFL. No ifs, no buts, no maybes. That's where he will play most of his time. However, he can certainly add to his value by adding a role as a resting key forward. He has shown an ability to take pack marks and kick goals already, so there's no reason why he can't do that more often.

[Cam]

Agreed RB.

[eddiesmith]

[Cam]

Grundy has had 6 straight top 5 finishes in the coveted Gavin Brown medal... which shows exactly how good he has been to poll that well amongst Nicksters of all kinds and biases. This shows his class as a match winning ruckman.

[Jezza]

People need to go back and watch Grundy's final quarter performance on Anzac Day.

He was literally playing on one leg, and still dominated Sam Draper.

[Monco Matt]

So, what to do with Grundy is a difficult issue to settle as long as Cox and Cameron stay fit and keep playing good footy. This is because it is far more beneficial to the team and the salary cap to play two Ruck/Forwards that can also drop back by paying a combined $800k p.a for both than to have one Ruckman on $1m+ p.a that is not particularly great anymore at doing any of those things. The Grundy situation is horrible for the club and team. This may be hard for many to accept but it is hurting us. No ruckman is worth $1m+. You only need two half price ruckman that are competitive.

Now, we either trade Grundy to the Adelaide Crows (they are desperate for a ruckman) for a 1st round & 3nd round pick and full salary relief. Or, we keep Grundy and make him earn his spot over Cox or Cameron. Meaning, one is going to play VFL if they are not doing what we need. We know Cox can show good form for a few weeks then drop off, he has done this for 5 years. Cameron is more consistent. But, we cannot play all three, too top heavy.

Personally, I'd keep Cameron and Cox, trade Grundy and develop one or two kids in the VFL as replacement ruckmen. DO NOT spend a lot of money on ruckmen going forward. We need to spend some money on a KPF and now a KPD with Roughie retiring. Spend the money more wisely is what will strengthen the team into premiership metal.

[RudeBoy]

Let's re-visit this thread after Reg wins the Norm Smith this year.

[Ronnie McKeowns boots]

[Wonka]