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David Libra

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PostPosted: Mon May 30, 2022 11:22 pm
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Yeah, look like the fun's over with Macnamara. A shame we're not getting a minority government, but hopefully the senate at least will be able to keep Labor accountable.
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PostPosted: Mon May 30, 2022 11:39 pm
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By the way, the "swing against" the ALP (0.5%) means a total of 2,147 fewer votes, nationally, on present numbers. It's all fairly trivial.
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Good timing from a global perspective, with the EU agreeing to cut 75% of Russian oil imports now, rising to 90% by year end due to some members going further. This is huge because you now have the EU and UK heavily incentivised to drive green energy, and finally an Aussie government that's not acting as a global c#ck blocker, and hopefully going even further.

I see the usual loony Glibs are still clinging to their culture war dogmas, but the tide has finally turned by the looks.

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 01, 2022 12:25 am
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Great news for Dan, he can continue slashing fire services funding as Victoria will never have another bushfire.
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David Libra

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 01, 2022 2:08 am
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And looks like Labor have claimed Gilmore, which makes the final seat tally in the lower house Labor 77, Coalition 58, Independent 10, Green 4, Katter 1, Centre Alliance 1. Albanese now not only has a majority, but also a slight buffer in case anything goes wrong.

Some senate races are still unclear, but the numbers look like they will be Coalition 33, Labor 26, Greens 12, One Nation 2, Jacqui Lambie Network 2, Independent 1 (39 needed to pass bills). Still a possibility Labor could pick up a seat off the Liberals in Victoria or South Australia and be able to claim a shared majority with the Greens alone, but worst case scenario they’ll still be able to get legislation through with help from the Greens and either David Pocock or Jacqui Lambie. The chances of the UAP picking up the last senate spot in Victoria seem to be fading, with that seat now tipped to go to the Coalition.

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 01, 2022 11:25 am
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eddiesmith wrote:
Great news for Dan, he can continue slashing fire services funding as Victoria will never have another bushfire.


Has this actually happened? Where has funding for fire services been cut?
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 01, 2022 5:15 pm
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David wrote:
And looks like Labor have claimed Gilmore, which makes the final seat tally in the lower house Labor 77, Coalition 58, Independent 10, Green 4, Katter 1, Centre Alliance 1. Albanese now not only has a majority, but also a slight buffer in case anything goes wrong.

Some senate races are still unclear, but the numbers look like they will be Coalition 33, Labor 26, Greens 12, One Nation 2, Jacqui Lambie Network 2, Independent 1 (39 needed to pass bills). Still a possibility Labor could pick up a seat off the Liberals in Victoria or South Australia and be able to claim a shared majority with the Greens alone, but worst case scenario they’ll still be able to get legislation through with help from the Greens and either David Pocock or Jacqui Lambie. The chances of the UAP picking up the last senate spot in Victoria seem to be fading, with that seat now tipped to go to the Coalition.


That’s going to be a much better,and saner,senate than the ones we’ve had recently,where One Nation,UAP,Liberal Democrats,and other fringe right wing groups held the balance of power.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 01, 2022 6:50 pm
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nomadjack wrote:
eddiesmith wrote:
Great news for Dan, he can continue slashing fire services funding as Victoria will never have another bushfire.


Has this actually happened? Where has funding for fire services been cut?


Constantly to the fire service that actually fights bushfires, I'm sure Dan's union buddies haven't lost any funding though.

But given AnAl will solve the bushfire crisis it won't matter anymore.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 01, 2022 8:05 pm
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From 6 November 2021:

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-11-06/victoria-bushfire-funding-season/100600580

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The state government today reiterated their commitment to bushfire preparedness, following a record $517 million investment in the 2021/2022 budget for firefighting services.

More than 600 seasonal firefighters have been recruited for the coming bushfire season, with a further 154 permanent staff added to Forest Fire Management Victoria's [FFMVic] workforce as part of the record investment.

The addition of hundreds of staff members comes as fire services prepare for another fire season under the threat of COVID-19 exposure.
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Well the first line seriously questions the accuracy given the annual funding for all fire service is much higher than 517 million, hell the CFA budget was slashed by nearly that much last year by the Government...
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eddiesmith wrote:
Well the first line seriously questions the accuracy given the annual funding for all fire service is much higher than 517 million, hell the CFA budget was slashed by nearly that much last year by the Government...


Yes, govt grants to the CFA were cut by around $400 million over the 2020/2021 budget period...as a result of the Fire Services Reforms which started mid 2020. Grants previously going to the CFA were transferred to Fire Rescue Victoria (FRV) instead due to restructuring of the provision of services...as I'm sure you know.

Maybe if the CFA is short of a quid they can dip into the operating surplus of $111.2m they reported for the 2020/21 reporting year?
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David Libra

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 14, 2022 12:44 pm
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David Pocock's election has been confirmed, making his historic win official: it's the first time ever that a candidate from outside the Liberal and Labor parties has won an ACT senate seat (an immensely difficult feat, given there are only two of them on offer!)

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-06-14/david-pocock-independent-wins-act-senate-unseats-zed-seselja/101149606

SA's upper house result is apparently being announced tomorrow, and the rest should be due by the end of next week.

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David Libra

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 14, 2022 1:14 pm
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David wrote:
stui magpie wrote:
Yeah it's in progress, but surely they've counted 100% of the votes they've got and would know how many postal votes that they issued, so it's not going to go up much.


No idea how many are left, to be honest. But since Saturday afternoon (itself a whole 24 hours since the update that Hartcher based his piece on), the total turnout figure has risen by over 100,000. That might not seem like a lot, but it's already enough to turn an apparent –8.54% reduction in turnout in the ACT into –7.09% and a –15.17% downturn in South Australia into –13.64%, for instance (and the fact that the negative swings are that big to begin with makes me suspect that there are still a lot more votes to be counted). So drawing conclusions about single-figure percentage swings in party vote based on provisional figures is jumping the gun to say the least.


Another 4 million votes have been counted since then, incidentally, so the figures have shifted dramatically in the last two weeks. The current turnout figure on the page is still slightly below last election (-2.15% nationally), so even if there is still a negative swing when the dust settles it presumably won't be a huge one.

https://tallyroom.aec.gov.au/HouseTurnoutByState-27966.htm

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stui magpie Gemini

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 14, 2022 6:49 pm
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Ta for that, it's still around 10% of eligible (I assume that is registered?) voters who didn't vote, or 1.5 Million.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 15, 2022 7:01 am
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stui magpie wrote:
Ta for that, it's still around 10% of eligible (I assume that is registered?) voters who didn't vote, or 1.5 Million.


That's not far off recent historical trends. Not a bad turn out given we're still in a pandemic.

https://www.aec.gov.au/elections/federal_elections/voter-turnout.htm

Also comes off an incredibly high participation rate with 96.8% of eligible voters enrolled. Go back to 2010 and that figure was only 90.8%.


https://www.aec.gov.au/Enrolling_to_vote/Enrolment_stats/national/
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