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Pies4shaw Leo

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 03, 2023 4:41 pm
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He did it in 23 fewer days than Bradman, should anyone care.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 04, 2023 11:17 am
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But, of course, Marnus is a long way off heading the list of fastest to 7,000 Test runs. That list is, of course, headed by by SPD BradSmith, ahead of Hammond, Sehwag, Tendulkar, Sobers, Sangakkara, Kohli, Yousuf, Gavaskar and Richards. BradSmith was also fastest to 8,000 Test runs. The full "1,000s" list to 10,000 is:

1,000 Bradman
2,000 Bradman
3,000 Bradman
4,000 Bradman
5,000 Bradman
6,000 Bradman
7,000 BradSmith
8,000 BradSmith
9,000 Sangakkara
10,000 Lara, Tendularr and Sangakkara - all tied on 195 innings.

BradSmith needs a further 457 runs in 10 innings to beat Sangakkara to 9,000. He is averaging 78.4 so far this season.

Here's a reminder of BradSmith's all-time greatness: https://www.cricket.com.au/news/steve-smith-fastest-man-8000-test-runs-150-innings-sangakkara-tendulkar-sobers-dravid/2022-03-24

As that article notes, BradSmith is, of course, the only player to reach 8,000 Test runs with an average of 60 or more.

BradSmith was also 3rd fastest all-time to 6,000 Test runs, behind only Bradman and Sobers and, consequently, the fatest to that mark since 1968.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 04, 2023 3:29 pm
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Batting beautifully, today. Very Happy
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 11, 2023 5:54 pm
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Food and faith:

"Not just the world’s best Test batter, Marnus Labuschagne is also the luckiest...
...

The first episode sees Labuschagne proudly demonstrating a well-practiced routine that sees him swiftly remove a steaming hot ham-and-cheese sandwich and put it straight into a refrigerator, to be enjoyed once it has cooled after his net session.

"Not many people do this, but I like a toastie that's actually cold," he tells the camera from a kitchen in the Gabba changerooms, adding that he likes the cheese to "harden up" in the fridge.
...

The eagle [sticker on his bat] is a reminder for Labuschagne of a favourite bible passage, Isaiah 40:31: "For those who hope in the Lord, He shall renew their strength. They shall soar on wings like eagles; they shall run and not grow weary, they shall walk and not be faint."

Even more than cricket, Christianity is a major part of who Labuschagne is. He met his wife, Rebekah, at church and his mother writes bible verses on the soles of his cricket shoes.
...

Having previously admitted it was a "challenging" aspect of his identity to explain to Queensland teammates when he started his domestic career, Labuschagne's beliefs now raise few eyebrows. Joe Burns even led a team prayer before his BBL debut with the Brisbane Heat."


(cricket.com.au)
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 11, 2023 8:18 pm
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K wrote:

Joe Burns even led a team prayer before his BBL debut with the Brisbane Heat.


And for the non-Christians ? Appalling behaviour. Rolling Eyes

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PostPosted: Wed Jan 11, 2023 8:46 pm
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I don't think they are forced to join in, so it shouldn't bother them.

When the beers come out in the dressing room, no one ever cares about it alienating the non-drinkers.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 12, 2023 6:15 am
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Donny wrote:
K wrote:

Joe Burns even led a team prayer before his BBL debut with the Brisbane Heat.


And for the non-Christians ? Appalling behaviour. Rolling Eyes

Yes. Just offensive.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 12, 2023 9:13 am
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Back on the subject of "the best batsman in the World", the real litmus test of a Test batsman has always been how they perform away from their home conditions. Bradman was a legend because he thrashed England home and away (2,674 runs at 102.84 away and 4.322 at 98.22 home). We can only speculate about what he might have done elsewhere because he only played Tests in those 2 countries. So, it might have been that he would have been a potato of Ponting proportions in India, or he might have been the best Australian batsman of all-time, there (that mantle is, of course, presently SPD Bradsmith's - the only Australian batsman to average 60 or better in India and, indeed, one of only 3 to average at least 50 there, the other 2 being Hayden and Martyn).

It is interesting to observe that there are only 3 Australian batsmen who have reached at least 3,000 runs outside Australia at an average of 50 or better, namely Border (5,431 at 56.57), Steve Waugh (5,083 at 55.85) and SPD Bradsmith (3,986 at 60.39).

None of the other "modern day greats" got near those achievements outside Australia. Thus, Greg Chappell made 2,595 at 52.95 and Adam Gilchrist 2,512 at 50.24. But other "great" Australian batsmen couldn't manage to make any significant number of runs away from home at an average over 50. Thus, Ponting made 5,360 runs outside Australia - but at the modest average of 45.81, which average sees him in the same bunch of "also-rans" as, eg, Katich.

By that genuine measure, Marnus has a long, long way to go to be considered a "great". Away from Australia, he has made just 672 runs at 44.8. To put that in context, batting away, Chris Rogers made 1,028 at 44.69 and Rick McCosker made 867 at 54.18.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 24, 2023 6:14 pm
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K wrote:
Food and faith:

"...
The eagle [sticker on his bat] is a reminder for Labuschagne of a favourite bible passage, Isaiah 40:31: "For those who hope in the Lord, He shall renew their strength. They shall soar on wings like eagles; they shall run and not grow weary, they shall walk and not be faint."
..."


(cricket.com.au)

Just checking the journo can quote a verse correctly... Surprised Wink
And what the leadup verses are...

Isaiah 40:28-31:

Do you not know?
Have you not heard?
The Lord is the everlasting God,
the Creator of the ends of the earth.
He will not grow tired or weary,
and his understanding no one can fathom.
He gives strength to the weary
and increases the power of the weak.
Even youths grow tired and weary,
and young men stumble and fall;
but those who hope in the Lord
will renew their strength.
They will soar on wings like eagles;
they will run and not grow weary,
they will walk and not be faint.

(NIV)

Hast thou not known? hast thou not heard, that the everlasting God, the Lord, the Creator of the ends of the earth, fainteth not, neither is weary? there is no searching of his understanding.

He giveth power to the faint; and to them that have no might he increaseth strength.

Even the youths shall faint and be weary, and the young men shall utterly fall:

But they that wait upon the Lord shall renew their strength; they shall mount up with wings as eagles; they shall run, and not be weary; and they shall walk, and not faint.

(King James Version)
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 24, 2023 6:33 pm
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Donny wrote:
K wrote:

Joe Burns even led a team prayer before his BBL debut with the Brisbane Heat.

And for the non-Christians ? Appalling behaviour. Rolling Eyes


K wrote:
I don't think they are forced to join in, so it shouldn't bother them.

When the beers come out in the dressing room, no one ever cares about it alienating the non-drinkers.


An earlier (31 Dec 2018) article:

'Nowadays in the Bulls camp, Labuschagne's faith is viewed as just another layer to his character. Matt Renshaw poses him questions about it while they run laps together at training, and last summer when he debuted for the Heat, stand-in skipper Joe Burns led a pre-match prayer as a show of solidarity and respect. There remain preconceptions and challenges, but they have become the exception rather than the norm.

"People still think that I don't drink, but I've been having beers with the boys since I first came into the squad," he explains. "There are stereotypes people have in their mind."

When he toured the UAE with Australia, he broached the subject with Langer who, it has been reported, carries rosary beads with him that represent his faith in the Catholic Church.'


(cricket.com.au)


["As a show of solidarity and respect." Sounds like 10 non-Christian Heat teammates or at least a large majority...]
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 18, 2023 6:27 pm
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Sounds like Oz's best batsman, Marny, is the only batter who's been doin' well in the nets. (There've been interviews with a net bowler and reports from journos like Wu.) No surprise.

The rest have been atrocious in the nets. Including Head. Guys like Mark Taylor have said Head must play (and now he is), but Taylor doesn't see what happens in the nets. Wu reported that Head was bowled twice by Agar. And Agar is not even in Oz's top three spinners at the moment.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 21, 2023 7:23 pm
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"The world’s top-ranked batter looks to have a big score in him but cannot convert his starts into substantial agenda-setting innings against India’s high-class spinners. He can at least draw comfort that it is taking excellent bowling to get him out. So much is riding on his blade. What’s happened to his bowling?"

(Wu, The Age)
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 24, 2023 8:31 pm
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K wrote:
Food and faith:

...
The eagle [sticker on his bat] is a reminder for Labuschagne of a favourite bible passage, Isaiah 40:31: "For those who hope in the Lord, He shall renew their strength. They shall soar on wings like eagles; they shall run and not grow weary, they shall walk and not be faint."
...


Video clip (Amazon Prime):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JBB_6Rg3AcY
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Pies4shaw Leo

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 24, 2023 9:11 pm
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He's starting to look like a raft of Australian batsmen who have failed on the Subcontinent before him. His average in Australia is now 70.5 - but his average in India is 29.75 and his average in Pakistan is 34.

It's more than just his average playing tricks, by the way. He has played 22 Tests in Australia and 13 overseas. He has 9 Test centuries and 9 50s in Australia and just 1 century and 5 50s away from home. 4 of those 5 away 50s came in 4 Tests in England, so he has actually played 9 Tests outside Australia and England for just 2 scores of 50 or better. Over his career, so far, he reaches 50 better than every second innings in Australia (18 in 34 completed innings). Outside Australia, he's reached 50 just 6 times in 23 completed innings. Thus, at the moment, his Test batting presence outside Australia is about half as good as it is in Australia.

By comparison, the one truly great player of the present era (who I won't name, since it seems to have a triggering effect on some people) has 30 centuries (16 from 48 home Tests and 14 from 46 away Tests) and 37 50s (17 in Australia and 20 away).

Hopefully, the imbalance is just a blip as Marnus adjusts to different conditions, otherwise Australia is going to lose a lost of Tests away from home while he has a spot in the Team. No shame in that - plenty of otherwise fine players have hit the same cricketing iceberg.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 02, 2023 8:25 am
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Oz's best batsman, Marnus, miked up in the nets:

https://www.cricket.com.au/video/marnus-labuschagne-mic-up-australia-net-session-spin-bowling-delhi-india-test-series/2023-02-28
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