| View previous topic :: View next topic |
| Author |
Message |
MJ23
Joined: 28 Feb 2011
Location: Sydney
|
| Post subject: |  |
|
Given the role Adams plays his stats are not unlike Chris Judds from a Kicking eff perspective. The gold is winning the contested footy.
Its why Im so happy with Macrae this year.
Add Josh and Nick Daicos plus Bianco with Pendles to the ball winners of Adams, Hopefully Reef and Lipinski and its a very good start.
Ideally we still need more stoppage players - that may come from Maynard, Wilson, Tyler Brown, Callum Brown or outside the club.
_________________
"Even when Im old and gray, I wont be able to play but Ill still love the game"
Michael Jordan |
|
|
|
 |
MatthewBoydFanClub
Joined: 12 Feb 2007
Location: Elwood
|
| Post subject: | |
|
It's not that he can't kick. His DE from memory is between 60-70%. That's down from most of the elite midfielders in the competition. He's had injuries that haven't helped his kicking. Same with Treloar whose kicking improved in the GF. You live with these things. Adams is still one of the best inside mids in the competition. His strengths mitigate his weaknesses. |
|
|
|
|
jackcass 
Joined: 01 Mar 2005
Location: Bendigo
|
| Post subject: | |
|
| MatthewBoydFanClub wrote: |
It's not that he can't kick. His DE from memory is between 60-70%. That's down from most of the elite midfielders in the competition. He's had injuries that haven't helped his kicking. Same with Treloar whose kicking improved in the GF. You live with these things. Adams is still one of the best inside mids in the competition. His strengths mitigate his weaknesses. |
Yep, this. |
|
|
|
|
MatthewBoydFanClub
Joined: 12 Feb 2007
Location: Elwood
|
| Post subject: | |
|
| MJ23 wrote: | Given the role Adams plays his stats are not unlike Chris Judds from a Kicking eff perspective. The gold is winning the contested footy.
Its why Im so happy with Macrae this year.
Add Josh and Nick Daicos plus Bianco with Pendles to the ball winners of Adams, Hopefully Reef and Lipinski and its a very good start.
Ideally we still need more stoppage players - that may come from Maynard, Wilson, Tyler Brown, Callum Brown or outside the club. |
Chris Judd was a totally different player after he suffered groin injuries. He was one of the best kicks in the competition before his injuries and then after, he rarely kicked the ball. He mostly handballed. |
|
|
|
|
Big T
Joined: 18 Oct 2003
Location: Torino, Italy
|
| Post subject: | |
|
| K wrote: | | Quote: |
“If he played in the ruck permanently, I think he’d win the Brownlow Medal. I don’t think anyone can keep up with him, and he’d take marks and kick goals. But (they’ve) got Grundy there.”
|
Imagine what'd happen if they played Moore in the ruck and he got seriously injured.  |
Moore would get injured waiting for the ball up
_________________
Buon Giorno |
|
|
|
|
gobbles21 
It is what it is...
Joined: 25 Sep 2002
Location: Tiwi Islands, NT, Australia
|
| Post subject: | |
|
| neil wrote: | | Have you seen the sack Brown threads where Brown is attacked for handballing more than kicking? |
Not even remotely comparable in any way whatsoever… 🤦♂️
a) Brown isn’t an inside mid winning the footy at the bottom of packs.
b) The criticisms come from him being in open space and turning back to handball to someone in a worse position.
If you’re going to make those sorts of condescending replies, at least try to understand the basics of the game and what’s being discussed. Thanks. |
|
|
|
|
jackcass
Joined: 01 Mar 2005
Location: Bendigo
|
| Post subject: | |
|
| gobbles21 wrote: | | Brown isn’t an inside mid |
I'm assuming your talking Cal and if so I actually think he is. Just doesn't get the opportunity there. |
|
|
|
|
Cam 
Nick's BB Member #166
Joined: 10 May 2002
Location: Springvale
|
| Post subject: | |
|
| Big T wrote: | | K wrote: | | Quote: |
“If he played in the ruck permanently, I think he’d win the Brownlow Medal. I don’t think anyone can keep up with him, and he’d take marks and kick goals. But (they’ve) got Grundy there.”
|
Imagine what'd happen if they played Moore in the ruck and he got seriously injured. |
Moore would get injured waiting for the ball up |
haha true
Leave him back.
_________________
Get back on top. |
|
|
|
|
gobbles21
It is what it is...
Joined: 25 Sep 2002
Location: Tiwi Islands, NT, Australia
|
| Post subject: | |
|
| jackcass wrote: | | gobbles21 wrote: | | Brown isn’t an inside mid |
I'm assuming your talking Cal and if so I actually think he is. Just doesn't get the opportunity there. |
Again, that’s not where he’s been in playing which is quite clearly the point of the discussion 🤦♂️ |
|
|
|
|
think positive 
Side By Side
Joined: 30 Jun 2005
Location: somewhere
|
| Post subject: | |
|
| Charlie Oneeye wrote: | Taylor Adams is All Australian and Copeland trophy winner
How anyone can accomplish these feats while butchering the ball is beyond common sense.
His disposal isn't in the top 10%, but the threads about being a butcher is a joke.
Same for Crisp who has gifted us some real head scratches on occasion. Likely our best player this year.
In addendum : In case one wishes to propose that other aspects of their game is so superior that they mask the kicking. That's bullshit too.
They aren't elite kicks, but 'butchers' has grown legs on the internet, it has a life of its own.. time to put it out. |
i agree, and i reckon once some of the real ball butchers around him, or just the dodgey decision makers, improve with the skills work the the fly is talking about, Tay will come into his own!
_________________
You cant fix stupid, turns out you cant quarantine it either! |
|
|
|
|
slangman
Joined: 11 Aug 2003
|
| Post subject: | |
|
| gobbles21 wrote: | | jackcass wrote: | | gobbles21 wrote: | | Brown isn’t an inside mid |
I'm assuming your talking Cal and if so I actually think he is. Just doesn't get the opportunity there. |
Again, that’s not where he’s been in playing which is quite clearly the point of the discussion 🤦♂️ |
Cal Brown is a list clogger. If he wasn’t Gavin’s son he would have been gone by now.
Doesn’t posses great speed, strength or foot skills. He is a VFL player and has already been overtaken by most of last years cohort.
_________________
- Side By Side - |
|
|
|
|
Macattacks
Joined: 12 Sep 2021
|
| Post subject: | |
|
Trade in next years 1st for a midfielder around pick 10 (supposedly Ess and Stk interested) we don't have a lot of time on this rebuild before our stars are old enough to play for Geelong.
Right now everyone thinks we'll be bottom 4 (they probably aren't wrong) but there's a chance we do better than that and get a nice discount as well as an extra 12 months development into a quality kid
_________________
Moore De Goey |
|
|
|
|
Lazza
Joined: 04 Feb 2003
Location: Bendigo, Victoria, Australia
|
| Post subject: | |
|
| Macattacks wrote: | | Right now everyone thinks we'll be bottom 4 (they probably aren't wrong) but there's a chance we do better than that and get a nice discount as well as an extra 12 months development into a quality kid |
I tend not to believe or have much faith in what “everyone” and “they” think. Unless they can give me next Saturday’s winning tattslotto numbers, everything is pure guesswork or random speculation. I have total faith and belief that McRea and the assistant coaches will ensure that Collingwood is heading in the right direction and making much better choices. That will please me no end next season.
_________________
Don't confuse your current path with your final destination. Just because it's dark and stormy now doesn't meant that you aren't headed for glorious sunshine! |
|
|
|
|
MJ23
Joined: 28 Feb 2011
Location: Sydney
|
| Post subject: | |
|
| MatthewBoydFanClub wrote: | | MJ23 wrote: | Given the role Adams plays his stats are not unlike Chris Judds from a Kicking eff perspective. The gold is winning the contested footy.
Its why Im so happy with Macrae this year.
Add Josh and Nick Daicos plus Bianco with Pendles to the ball winners of Adams, Hopefully Reef and Lipinski and its a very good start.
Ideally we still need more stoppage players - that may come from Maynard, Wilson, Tyler Brown, Callum Brown or outside the club. |
Chris Judd was a totally different player after he suffered groin injuries. He was one of the best kicks in the competition before his injuries and then after, he rarely kicked the ball. He mostly handballed. |
Right. So did they play him in the forward line or keep him in the middle ?
_________________
"Even when Im old and gray, I wont be able to play but Ill still love the game"
Michael Jordan |
|
|
|
|
MJ23
Joined: 28 Feb 2011
Location: Sydney
|
| Post subject: | |
|
| Macattacks wrote: | Trade in next years 1st for a midfielder around pick 10 (supposedly Ess and Stk interested) we don't have a lot of time on this rebuild before our stars are old enough to play for Geelong.
Right now everyone thinks we'll be bottom 4 (they probably aren't wrong) but there's a chance we do better than that and get a nice discount as well as an extra 12 months development into a quality kid |
Im sure I read both saints and Bombers were looking for MORE picks in this draft ahead of any player trade.
_________________
"Even when Im old and gray, I wont be able to play but Ill still love the game"
Michael Jordan |
|
|
|
|
|
The Rules
FAQ
Usergroups
Calendar
Search
Log in
Register
