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PostPosted: Tue Aug 24, 2021 9:02 am
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^ funny I never really rated Jack until this year. I think he had a break-out year to a degree. He is injury prone tho
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Yes and we have one already. Will Kelly
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MatthewBoydFanClub wrote:
Varcoe was a waste in the last couple years. If we want to climb back up the ladder we need to dispense with players who are only going to give us a couple of year’s service. We should have learned that lesson with Daniel Wells.


Varcoe was effectively useless after 2018GF.
Some argue he should have been recalled for 2019PF vs. GWS; who knows.

Daniel Wells? The same Daniel Wells who in his return game in 2019, kicked three 1st half goals against Swans at SCG, before a hospital handball from numpty Beams busted his knee and ended his career?

If Wells goes through the rest of that season uninjured with that form, we would have played off in 2019GF, that's for sure.

We can afford the luxury of a couple of mature age recruits, providing they come cheap from whoever offloads them, and without big salary demands.
That is where we encountered cap problems, bringing aboard Wells, Varcoe, Mayne, Greenwood etc, in that F.A. shopping spree, once Beams left in 2014.

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 24, 2021 7:53 pm
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Cox on Channel 9 and he hasn’t been offered a contract (he is out of contract)
and told to explore his options

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 24, 2021 8:22 pm
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piedys wrote:
If Wells goes through the rest of that season uninjured with that form, we would have played off in 2019GF, that's for sure


Given that he averaged 9 games a season in the preceding 5 years, the odds of him getting through 2019 uninjured are not good, with or without poor handballs

The other problem is that we paid him way too much and without appropriate performance incentives

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 24, 2021 8:25 pm
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With Cox about to explore his options are we able to do a trade or is he unrestricted agent
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 24, 2021 8:26 pm
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He's out of contract
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 24, 2021 8:29 pm
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Cox can leave basically. If he’s a decent bloke, he’ll repay the club by offering to be traded so we get something in return. The club’s been good to him. But why would another club trade when they can get him for free.

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Good
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 24, 2021 8:34 pm
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Mr Miyagi wrote:
Cox can leave basically. If he’s a decent bloke, he’ll repay the club by offering to be traded so we get something in return. The club’s been good to him. But why would another club trade when they can get him for free.


So which club in your fantasy land for trade for an uncontracted player?
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What'sinaname wrote:
Mr Miyagi wrote:
Cox can leave basically. If he’s a decent bloke, he’ll repay the club by offering to be traded so we get something in return. The club’s been good to him. But why would another club trade when they can get him for free.


So which club in your fantasy land for trade for an uncontracted player?

It happens. Best case we get some points for Daicos.

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 24, 2021 9:16 pm
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Haff wrote:
What'sinaname wrote:
Mr Miyagi wrote:
Cox can leave basically. If he’s a decent bloke, he’ll repay the club by offering to be traded so we get something in return. The club’s been good to him. But why would another club trade when they can get him for free.


So which club in your fantasy land for trade for an uncontracted player?

It happens. Best case we get some points for Daicos.


^^^ What I’m thinking
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 24, 2021 9:46 pm
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Mr Miyagi wrote:
Cox can leave basically. If he’s a decent bloke, he’ll repay the club by offering to be traded so we get something in return. The club’s been good to him. But why would another club trade when they can get him for free.


They can only get him for free if he is a delisted free agent. That comes from two reasons:

1. Club immediately delist said player if they don't believe he is unlikely to conjure up "trade currency". For example Ben Crocker

2. A player post trade week fails to get traded and the club delists them creating a vacant list spot.

Hopefully Cox arouses enough interest from clubs such as:

* Bulldogs
* Gold Coast
* Blues
* Brisbane
* Swans
* Hawks

who are all thin in the ruck stakes.

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Rd10.1998_11.1#36 wrote:
piedys wrote:
If Wells goes through the rest of that season uninjured with that form, we would have played off in 2019GF, that's for sure


Given that he averaged 9 games a season in the preceding 5 years, the odds of him getting through 2019 uninjured are not good, with or without poor handballs

The other problem is that we paid him way too much and without appropriate performance incentives


performance incentives or actually staying injury free enough to take the field?

regardless, didn't he wear a big pay-cut after 2018 season, in an attempt to repay the faith, for that 2019 season?

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 25, 2021 12:55 am
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^ I certainly hope so, given he didn't even play 1 full game after 2018

How big a paycut do you think would cover that before you could call it value - 95%?

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