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think positive Libra

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 17, 2022 12:19 pm
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David wrote:
Precisely – Media Watch pulled Alan Jones up for using those statistics as some kind of gotcha. In an imaginary world where 95% of women had brown hair and 5% had blonde hair, but 75% of married women had brown hair and 25% had blonde hair, the correct conclusion to make would be that having blonde hair dramatically increases your likelihood of getting married. (Whereas Jones would be on Sky News saying "See? Brunettes are clearly more popular!")


that actually means that married women dye their hair blonde! you know just in case they will have more fun!

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 17, 2022 1:13 pm
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Sounds like a winning strategy in this hypothetical! Laughing
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 17, 2022 8:31 pm
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When will WA run out of fingers to plug the dyke.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 17, 2022 8:49 pm
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The main reason McGowan has been playing tough on Covid is their public health system is 3rd world. Rather than spend all his mining billions on fixing it, it's easier to throw blame and play tough with isolationist policies, which have worked.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 18, 2022 8:57 am
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^ The WA strategy has worked very well. On the day Delta arrived at Bondi (16 June 2021), WA had under 4% of its population aged 12+ double-vaxxed. As of yesterday, the figure was over 85% and it is expected that 90% of the population of WA will be double-vaxxed in 10 days' time. In the meantime, no-one has died of COVID in WA in more than 8 months (and just 9 people have died in total) and business and economic actiovity there seems to be largely unaffected.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 18, 2022 9:07 am
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Meanwhile, just reported today in NSW:

- 2,850 hospitalisations
- 209 people in ICU
- 36 dead.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 18, 2022 9:16 am
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And in Victoria:

Hospital: 1,152
ICU: 127
Ventilated: 43
Deaths: 22
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 18, 2022 12:01 pm
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And in Qld:

- 819 people in hospital
- 50 in ICU
- 16 deaths

So, after those 3 jurisdictions have published, we have 74 deaths reported today.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 18, 2022 12:40 pm
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and here we are

https://www.theage.com.au/politics/victoria/code-brown-called-for-victorian-hospitals-under-pressure-from-covid-19-20220118-p59p2u.html

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 18, 2022 12:52 pm
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I attended a VCOSS Coronavirus briefing session this morning with reps from DFFH and Commander Covid as speakers.

A couple of things that stood out was it was all pretty calm.

Current daily (recorded) cases are more than we had for the whole of 2020, but aren't increasing. Inference was they think they've plateaued.

As of today they said there was over 240,000 active (recorded) cases in Victoria and 1300* people in Hospital, many of whom aren't there because of Covid (eg, broken arm) but were tested and diagnosed on admission.

While they are doing very little contact tracing at the moment (numbers far to high) QR code checkins are still recommended as they still use the info for mass infection sites.

RAT's are only being mandated in very limited areas and will be supplied to employers by the government in those situations. If you test positive, you're free to leave isolation after 7 days, you don't need a negative test.

It was said a few times that Vaccination is the way out, plus people being sensible, wearing masks, social distancing etc.

* While Commander Covid quoted 1300 people in hospital the daily published numbers are only 1152, so I'll assume the difference is those people still in hospital with post Covid complications but who are no longer positive.

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 18, 2022 2:54 pm
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There have been 867,894 COVID cases in Australia with an outcome. 865,121 people have recovered (99.7%) and 2,773 people have died (0.3%).
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 18, 2022 3:15 pm
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* While Commander Covid quoted 1300 people in hospital the daily published numbers are only 1152, so I'll assume the difference is those people still in hospital with post Covid complications but who are no longer positive.


The 1,152 is cumulative admissions since the start of the pandemic so the actual in hospital must be less than that. The 1,300 doesn't make sense either unless all the numbers are just wrong.

If we assume (wrongly) that everyone admitted before 1 Jan has been discharged, then we would have 700 people in hospital.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 18, 2022 3:23 pm
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Nah, it's not cumulative as it goes up and down, it's the number of people currently in Hospital positive with Covid, today, whether they're being treated for Covid or something else.

https://covidlive.com.au/report/daily-hospitalised/vic

Vic stopped reporting people in ICU who no longer had Covid but were there because of Covid caused health issues. Numbers in Hospital today are 77 less than yesterday, so that would mean 77 more people were discharged (or died) than were admitted.

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stui magpie wrote:
Nah, it's not cumulative as it goes up and down, it's the number of people currently in Hospital positive with Covid, today, whether they're being treated for Covid or something else.

https://covidlive.com.au/report/daily-hospitalised/vic

Vic stopped reporting people in ICU who no longer had Covid but were there because of Covid caused health issues. Numbers in Hospital today are 77 less than yesterday, so that would mean 77 more people were discharged (or died) than were admitted.


Right you are.
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think positive wrote:
and here we are

https://www.theage.com.au/politics/victoria/code-brown-called-for-victorian-hospitals-under-pressure-from-covid-19-20220118-p59p2u.html


and now I hear a story of someone who called an ambulance claiming they were having heart / chest pain, only to get rushed to ED with prioritized treatment, to then tell the doctors & nurses they didn't really have chest pain, they just needed a PCR and wanted it to be done / get it back quickly!



I can't fathom the selfishness of some people!

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