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stui magpie Gemini

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 28, 2021 7:15 pm
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Funny enough, the Australian state with the lowest Vaccination rate is WA.

Had a bastard of a busy day with Covid today, not what I needed. Where I work has a residential care program for young people, one of the staff members went home last week feeling unwell, got tested and result came back yesterday as positive. Mayhem ensued.

Sending people home to isolate and get tested. Primary contacts are easy to identify but secondary contacts of contacts make shit messier, convincing adolescents that they have to get tested and isolate, organising staff to stay with them in full PPE, the Teams Chat on my laptop has been pinging like a pokie paying out.

Trying to get clear info on who has to isolate for how long is ridiculous. Tier 1 and 2 are simple but if you spent 15 minutes with someone who spent 15 minutes with someone who tested positive????

Spent the arvo ringing people who are isolating at home, checking in, making sure they're OK and trying to identify if they were in contact with any staff we didn't know about yet. So far all good, they're all well and have all tested negative.

Beers going down well tonight.

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 28, 2021 8:07 pm
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I am tipping a Spike on Covid Cases next few days as Parks and Beaches be Packed Today
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 28, 2021 10:07 pm
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This might interest. You can usually snag a few free Bloomberg views a month.

Bloomberg wrote:
The Best and Worst Places to Be as We Learn to Live With Delta

In September, European nations dominate the top rungs of Bloomberg’s Covid Resilience Ranking for a third month, and we have a new No. 1—Ireland has taken pole position from Norway after steadily climbing the ranks from the start of 2021, when it had the worst outbreak in the world.

https://www.bloomberg.com/graphics/covid-resilience-ranking

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 28, 2021 11:16 pm
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Dave The Man wrote:
I am tipping a Spike on Covid Cases next few days as Parks and Beaches be Packed Today


Funnily enough I was in Warrandyte today and noticed it was as packed as a Sunday afternoon.

Pretty much took my entire lunch break just to get lunch!!!
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 29, 2021 8:45 am
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A couple of "state of knowledge" pieces for those who are interested:

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-09-29/covid-delta-variant-what-the-science-says/100497804

This one indicates that:

- Delta is between 2 and 5 times as contagious as the original variant;
- Delta is (at least modestly) more likely to lead to hospitalization and death than earlier strains; and
- although the vaccines provide good coverage against Delta, breakthrough infections are more common with Delta than with earlier strains. By reference to this US report https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/70/wr/mm7037e1.htm?s_cid=mm7037e1_w#T1_down it suggests that you are ten times less likely to die of COVID if you are fully vaccinated.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-09-29/why-a-small-number-of-fully-vaccinated-people-have-died-of-covid/100497770

This one tries to identify (from a very small sub-population of fully vaccinated people who have died in NSW) why some people that have been fully vaccinated still get severe illness and some of those who do die.
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 29, 2021 10:24 am
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In Victoria:

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Reported yesterday: 950 new local cases and 0 cases acquired overseas.
- 34,028 vaccines administered
- 61,322 test results received
- Sadly, 7 people with COVID-19 have died
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 29, 2021 11:17 am
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In Victoria:

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Reported yesterday: 950 new local cases and 0 cases acquired overseas.
- 34,028 vaccines administered
- 61,322 test results received
- Sadly, 7 people with COVID-19 have died


No Shock thanks to the Protesters and People behaving like at Mornington Yesterday that there where no Lockdown.

People at the Moment seem not to give a F**k

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 29, 2021 12:19 pm
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^ The number is high but at least the R(eff) is dropping, again. It's still higher than NSW's - but it is going to remain so until the low levels of double-vaccination in the Northern and Western "hot spots" are massively improved. One positive aspect of this, so far, in Victoria has been that the regional numbers have been very low (both in numbers and as a percentage of all daily cases), compared to NSW. Now that La Trobe is in lockdown and things are spreading in the South-East of Melbourne (I presume those two events are connected), I wonder whether that can be maintained.
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 29, 2021 12:20 pm
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From NSW Health twitter:

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NSW recorded 863 new locally acquired cases of COVID-19 in the 24 hours to 8pm last night.

Three new cases were acquired overseas, and seven previously reported cases have been excluded following further investigation.

The total number of cases in NSW since the beginning of the pandemic is 61,231.

Sadly, NSW Health is today reporting the deaths of fifteen people with COVID-19 – eight men and seven women.

Two people were in their 40s, two were in their 50s, four people were in their 60s, three people were in their 70s, one in their 80s, and three people were in their 90s.

....

There are currently 1,082 COVID-19 cases admitted to hospital, with 212 people in intensive care, 108 of whom require ventilation.

There were 120,281 COVID-19 tests reported to 8pm last night, compared with the previous day’s total of 132,279.

....

Of the 863 locally acquired cases reported to 8pm last night, 227 are from South Western Sydney Local Health District (LHD), 187 are from Western Sydney LHD, 94 are from Illawarra Shoalhaven LHD, 80 are from South East Sydney LHD, 68 are from Sydney LHD, 55 are from Hunter New England LHD, 38 are from Northern Sydney LHD, 34 are from Nepean Blue Mountains LHD, 24 are from Western NSW LHD, 23 are from Central Coast LHD, 18 are from Southern NSW LHD, five are from Far West LHD, two are from Northern NSW LHD, three are in correctional settings, and five cases are yet to be assigned to an LHD.
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 29, 2021 12:38 pm
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stui magpie wrote:
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Funny enough, the Australian state with the lowest Vaccination rate is WA.


Makes sense, though, doesn't it? A lot of people are taking the vaccine because it's a necessary evil to get us out of lockdown. Of course, there are those in WA who need or want to travel but otherwise why bother?

No lockdown = no rush to get vaccinated.

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 29, 2021 12:41 pm
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Dave The Man wrote:
Pies4shaw wrote:
In Victoria:

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Reported yesterday: 950 new local cases and 0 cases acquired overseas.
- 34,028 vaccines administered
- 61,322 test results received
- Sadly, 7 people with COVID-19 have died


No Shock thanks to the Protesters and People behaving like at Mornington Yesterday that there where no Lockdown.

People at the Moment seem not to give a F**k


It’s easy to blame a small group of people instead of the governments incompetence, you’ve obviously been listening to the PRV propaganda messages too much 😉
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stui magpie Gemini

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 29, 2021 1:25 pm
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Had an interesting meeting earlier with DFFH getting some clarity around our situation.

Good news is, apart from the positive case (who is fully vaccinated) everyone is is testing negative.

The few people who were primary contacts of theirs have to do the full 14 days, despite testing negative but the staff who were secondary contacts are free to leave as both the young people and themselves have tested negative.

We've basically done all the contact tracing on this ourselves, no one from the contact tracing people have spoken to the positive case yet and, apparently, they aren't likely to. The ideal is to do it with 48 hours of a positive test but they're currently being smashed with numbers.

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eddiesmith wrote:
It’s easy to blame a small group of people instead of the governments incompetence, you’ve obviously been listening to the PRV propaganda messages too much 😉

It's a bit of a balance, eddiesmith. La Trobe is presently locked down because a bunch of numpties had a Grand Final party. I'm not sure how that's the Government's fault. The CHO was basically pleading with people not to do that in the lead up to last weekend.

Otherwise, your "Government incompetence" line is wearing a bit thin. NSW has had about 4 times as many cases as Victoria, so far this year. You might not like what Andrews has done but it has been reasonably effective or, if you prefer, about 25% as ineffective as what has been done in NSW.

In any event, there's not much merit in polarising things in the way you do. At the moment, there's only 1 ALP voter posting in this thread regularly, so far as I'm aware.
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Pies4shaw wrote:
eddiesmith wrote:
It’s easy to blame a small group of people instead of the governments incompetence, you’ve obviously been listening to the PRV propaganda messages too much 😉

It's a bit of a balance, eddiesmith. La Trobe is presently locked down because a bunch of numpties had a Grand Final party. I'm not sure how that's the Government's fault. The CHO was basically pleading with people not to do that in the lead up to last weekend.

Otherwise, your "Government incompetence" line is wearing a bit thin. NSW has had about 4 times as many cases as Victoria, so far this year. You might not like what Andrews has done but it has been reasonably effective or, if you prefer, about 25% as ineffective as what has been done in NSW.

In any event, there's not much merit in polarising things in the way you do. At the moment, there's only 1 ALP voter posting in this thread regularly, so far as I'm aware.


You keep using these total figures at a time Victoria’s cases are continuing to surge and NSW is planning to open up.

What the outbreaks show is go hard and go early has no effect, yet it didn’t stop plenty of people including Dan and plenty of posters on here saying NSW should have followed Victoria’s plan. To say as we prepare to hit 1,000 daily cases that it’s worked is the funniest thing I’ve ever read 😂

But still people want to blame non compliance for Victoria’s failures but that’s not an excuse in NSW? Why is that?

Maybe if they imposed more sensible rules rather than going hard and blaming Victorians for their failure then people would listen. But after a world record lockdown with no end in sight, it’s no wonder people are over it.

The health advice was masks not necessary outdoors, but Victoria’s rules say you must. The health advice is outdoor transmission is extremely rare, yet Dan goes hard on shutting playgrounds and banning people from drinking at the picnics he so graciously allowed after condemning NSW for allowing them.

For a non ALP voter you sure do agree with everything Dan does, no matter how bad or what the effect.

As for Gippsland, maybe if they’d put in the ring if steel it’d have stopped it? Does it really surprise that no one listens to him anymore when you consider his attacks on NSW then he fails to implement the only strategy that works? If it was a good, why had t it come back?
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 29, 2021 4:40 pm
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The health and safety watchdog has charged Victoria's health department with 58 breaches of the Occupational Health and Safety Act in relation to the state's hotel quarantine program.

Key points:
WorkSafe Victoria alleges the department failed to provide adequate infection prevention guidelines and training
The watchdog says employees and subcontracted security guards were put at serious risk between March and July 2020
The department faces more than $95 million in fines for the alleged breaches of the Act
WorkSafe alleges the Department of Health, formerly the Department of Health and Human Services, failed to provide a safe working environment for its employees and put non-employees at risk.

The charges relate to Operation Soteria, the iteration of hotel quarantine which ran in the state from March to July 2020 and was in place when infection control breaches led to the deadly second wave.

Evidence of untrained private security guards, poor infection control protocols and a lack of oversight were uncovered in the media during those months.


https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-09-29/victorian-health-department-charged-covid-hotel-quarantine/100500624

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