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thebaldfacts
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| slangman wrote: | | Dave The Man wrote: | | thebaldfacts wrote: | | How can Grundy go from brilliant in the first quarter to being beaten by Silagni in the second half? |
How can the Whole Team be the Same.
Start Well and looks like they Stopped Playing and went home at Half Time |
Collingwood of the last few years has had a tendency to become arrogant when they get 3+ goals up and then begin to play a Harlem Globetrotters type of game which focuses on all of the show pony aspects and totally ignores the 1%’s.
This arrogance usually allows the opposition back into the game by allowing a momentum change on the back of our inability to do the basics (usually things that are not SuperCoach points).
It is the major reason why we have struggled to put “teams away” and either win by a smaller than expected margin, or in the case of 2018 GF and today, grab defeat from the jaws of victory.
Our defenders, although very good in most advanced aspects of the game, are the biggest culprits with their inability to assess the the moments that they should punch the ball instead going for a mark.
Who can ever forget the momentum shift in the GF when 3 Collingwood players went up on the goal line and not one of them fisted the ball for a point, instead allowing it to drop down and hit the WCE players foot and going through for a goal.
Punch the freakin BALL!!! |
Still blame Langdon for not punching it through. Would of gone in 5 goals to zero. |
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MatthewBoydFanClub
Joined: 12 Feb 2007
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| Piesnchess wrote: | | RudeBoy wrote: | We clearly ran out of legs in the 2nd half. Maybe I'm looking for excuses, but I thought Grundy got hit hard in the 2nd quarter and struggled after that. Adams played out the game injured too.
I agree that Sidey's time is fast drawing near. Glad to see Henry take a few marks and kick 3 goals. He has a bright future, but atm he is a one trick pony - a very good mark, but slow and not yet strong enough at the contest. He'll be much better next year.
Ruscoe looks comfortable in defence and at least always has a go and is quite good in the air.
Jeez we gifted the blues some easy goals with sloppy turnovers and stupid 50 metre penalties.
Overall, I'm not too disappointed as it's been a shit year and until we get a new coach, we are simply in a holding pattern. Let's bring in Wilson, Ginnivan and Sier next week. |
Agree, spot on, just play all our kids, get games into all of em now, and yes, a holding pattern, for sure. And offer Clarkson the earth, bang his door down, as i said earlier, at least the Blues are out of the running now for him, Teague is safe now, for sure.  |
I’ve been saying that all along. Why are we playing Madgen who at best is a wing man, not a CHB. We should be playing Keane at CHB. Sidebottom needs to have a cold hearted look in the mirror. He’s at the crossroads. Grundy, Pendles and Adams are excused. Ruscoe, Noble, De Goey and Mayne played their guts out today. They should hold their heads up high. As for the others they should be disgusted with the way they played. They have just ended the short coaching career of the intermin coach, Robert Harvey. |
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doriswilgus
Joined: 16 Jun 2005
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| thesoretoothsayer wrote: | | Just looking forward to Harvey saying that "We were nutted at the clearances" post-match. |
We got nutted ten times over in the clearances.Our midfield was beyond woeful |
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| MatthewBoydFanClub wrote: | | Piesnchess wrote: | | RudeBoy wrote: | We clearly ran out of legs in the 2nd half. Maybe I'm looking for excuses, but I thought Grundy got hit hard in the 2nd quarter and struggled after that. Adams played out the game injured too.
I agree that Sidey's time is fast drawing near. Glad to see Henry take a few marks and kick 3 goals. He has a bright future, but atm he is a one trick pony - a very good mark, but slow and not yet strong enough at the contest. He'll be much better next year.
Ruscoe looks comfortable in defence and at least always has a go and is quite good in the air.
Jeez we gifted the blues some easy goals with sloppy turnovers and stupid 50 metre penalties.
Overall, I'm not too disappointed as it's been a shit year and until we get a new coach, we are simply in a holding pattern. Let's bring in Wilson, Ginnivan and Sier next week. |
Agree, spot on, just play all our kids, get games into all of em now, and yes, a holding pattern, for sure. And offer Clarkson the earth, bang his door down, as i said earlier, at least the Blues are out of the running now for him, Teague is safe now, for sure. |
I’ve been saying that all along. Why are we playing Madgen who at best is a wing man, not a CHB. We should be playing Keane at CHB. Sidebottom needs to have a cold hearted look in the mirror. He’s at the crossroads. Grundy, Pendles and Adams are excused. Ruscoe, Noble, De Goey and Mayne played their guts out today. They should hold their heads up high. As for the others they should be disgusted with the way they played. They have just ended the short coaching career of the intermin coach, Robert Harvey. |
IF we do get Clarko, id be OK though, for Banger to stay on as his Assistant, to advise him on the makeup of our players, thatd be ok i reckon. 
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MatthewBoydFanClub
Joined: 12 Feb 2007
Location: Elwood
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| doriswilgus wrote: | | thesoretoothsayer wrote: | | Just looking forward to Harvey saying that "We were nutted at the clearances" post-match. |
We got nutted ten times over in the clearances.Our midfield was beyond woeful |
We got killed at the center clearances. It’s difficult to win a game of footy when your defense is continually on the back foot. Quaynor succumbed, while I thought Ruscoe and Noble were fantastic under adversity. |
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Woods 
Joined: 21 Aug 2013
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slangman said:
| Quote: | Collingwood of the last few years has had a tendency to become arrogant when they get 3+ goals up and then begin to play a Harlem Globetrotters type of game which focuses on all of the show pony aspects and totally ignores the 1%’s.
This arrogance usually allows the opposition back into the game by allowing a momentum change on the back of our inability to do the basics (usually things that are not SuperCoach points).
It is the major reason why we have struggled to put “teams away” and either win by a smaller than expected margin, or in the case of 2018 GF and today, grab defeat from the jaws of victory.
Our defenders, although very good in most advanced aspects of the game, are the biggest culprits with their inability to assess the the moments that they should punch the ball instead going for a mark.
Who can ever forget the momentum shift in the GF when 3 Collingwood players went up on the goal line and not one of them fisted the ball for a point, instead allowing it to drop down and hit the WCE players foot and going through for a goal.
Punch the freakin BALL!!! |
A good point well made.
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SteveH67
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Dave The Man 
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Harvey is showing he will never be a Head Coach
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Lazza
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Location: Bendigo, Victoria, Australia
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| shawthing wrote: | | But it may well be this AFL season will be called off anyway. Swans and Giants players forced into isolation due to exposure at the rugby game. Seriously AFL call the season off. |
Am I the only truly cynical poster here who thinks that if Collingwood was on top of the ladder and a red hot chance to win the flag this year, the AFL would have called the season off blaming Covid as the reason?🤔
And due to this not being the case, I expect the season to go on till the end.
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What'sinaname 
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| Lazza wrote: | | shawthing wrote: | | But it may well be this AFL season will be called off anyway. Swans and Giants players forced into isolation due to exposure at the rugby game. Seriously AFL call the season off. |
Am I the only truly cynical poster here who thinks that if Collingwood was on top of the ladder and a red hot chance to win the flag this year, the AFL would have called the season off blaming Covid as the reason?🤔
And due to this not being the case, I expect the season to go on till the end. |
yes you are. |
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Lazza
Joined: 04 Feb 2003
Location: Bendigo, Victoria, Australia
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| Dave The Man wrote: | | Harvey is showing he will never be a Head Coach |
He was never interested in the senior coaching position DTM. He was thrust into the role due to Buckley being forced to resign by the Buckley haters.
I have always posted that changing a coach mid season will do more harm than good. Our current terrible performances vindicate what I said🙄
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MatthewBoydFanClub
Joined: 12 Feb 2007
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| Lazza wrote: | | Dave The Man wrote: | | Harvey is showing he will never be a Head Coach |
He was never interested in the senior coaching position DTM. He was thrust into the role due to Buckley being forced to resign by the Buckley haters.
I have always posted that changing a coach mid season will do more harm than good. Our current terrible performances vindicate what I said🙄 |
I know you you disagree with it, but it was the only thing to do when you decide not to renew the coach’s contract at the end of the season. There was no point in continuing with Nathan Buckley. The only thing you can do is to appoint an interim coach and cast out a wide net to find the best possible replacement for Nathan Buckley. |
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pies4shaw
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| ^ The only surprising thing about that is that anyone could still seriously hold the opinion that Buckley might have done better. |
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Lazza
Joined: 04 Feb 2003
Location: Bendigo, Victoria, Australia
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| shawthing wrote: | | Am I the only truly cynical poster here who thinks that if Collingwood was on top of the ladder and a red hot chance to win the flag this year, the AFL would have called the season off blaming Covid as the reason |
yes you are.[/quote]
Not enough responses to make your comment right mate. At this point I’ll merely disagree with you. My experiences tell me otherwise.
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pies4shaw
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| Piesnchess wrote: | | The ONLY positive, and i mean, the ONLY positive, is that the Blues will definitely not now sack Teague, and we will have now a clear run at Clarkson, bang his door down, as Dunstall said, offer him the earth. If not him, then the next best Coach available, who ever that maybe. Real Jekyll and Hyde team we are, play so well against the Tigers then one week later, serve up a shocker, like a friggin yo yo. ! |
Let's not be silly. There are no positives in a regrettable display like that. And, in any event, beating our pathetic rabble won't save Teague if they can get Clarkson. |
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