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PyreneesPie 
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| Raw Hammer wrote: | | Imagine being on the fringe and seeing players keeping their spot with such horrendous play week in week out. |
Good point RH. It certainly does not set a good example for any of the players really, but especially those busting to get a game. |
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PyreneesPie
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| swoop42 wrote: | Buckley and Hoskin-Elliott might well have the last laugh up against a seriously weakened GWS side but that matters little in the long run to me.
It's the bigger picture I care about and Buckley had the opportunity to send a clear message to the playing group about the standards he expects from them and that efforts like we witnessed from Hoskin-Elliott last week (and not for the first time) will not be tolerated.
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Agree swoop. WHE is a confounding and disappointing selection.  There may be a reason not obvious to us supporters, but it also suggests IMHO that the coaches are thinking primarily of their own contracts, not what's best for the team in the long run.  |
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masoncox
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shades of j blair with whe and jt
really disheartening |
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Yep but Bucks keeps his Favorite Duds Thomas/Madgen/WHE/C Brown in the Side.
Bucks and Selectors are Morons
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GreekLunatic
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| Bucks is coaching for his future not the clubs |
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Magpietothemax 
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Really an incomprehensible selection. How does WHE survive and T Brown get dropped?? You can't even claim that it is because Bux and Co are coaching for their contracts... WHE's form has been so terrible, leaving him out would risk nothing because McCreery's contribution could not have been less than WHE's. As RH has said, sends a really confusing and demoralising message to those players who are raising their hand for senior selection by playing well in the VFL.
I read an interview in the HS by Jack McRae of the Western Bulldogs, brother of Findlay. He emphasized that Luke Bevridge is very strong on rewarding good VFL form with selection at the expense of any player who has 2 or 3 quiet games in the senior team. For the last game, Bevridge dropped the VC, Mitch Wallis for that reason. I could never imagine Bux making such a call, dropping his VC because his form had been unsatisfactory for 3 weeks. I am not sure how to describe this selection policy. It is not even conservatism, because conservatism implies safety first, and how would the selection of WHE, given his recent form, represent a "safety first" approach?
I am lost for words.
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MatthewBoydFanClub
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| If you want to make a statement to a player like WHE and don't want to drop him then play him on the half back line. Move Noble to the half forward line as well as have McCreery there. Why did Tyler Brown get dropped before his brother? Tyler has been playing down back. It's the forward line that's the problem. There's no static movement in our forward line. We don't have the pace to run with the other teams. Thomas, Madgen, Callum Brown, Mayne and Sier are too slow. You go to training during the week the players are faster on the training track than they are on match day. That's because they pick all our slower players to play in the senior team. The selection of the team is becoming a joke. And don't tell me the club knows what it's doing and the supporters don't. You pay a guy almost a million dollars a year on a 7 year contract and then change your mind and give him away for almost nothing and keep paying a third of his salary for him to play for another club. |
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BazBoy
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The comments expressed here (and by myself) surely points to a refreshing new approach to selection OR find another group of selection/ coaching panel
that can embrace good performance and reprimand poor performance
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I know stats aren't everything but there were 10 Collingwood players that had the ball less than T Brown last week. 10!
Selected teams so far this year has been mystifying similar to last year. |
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Magpietothemax
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| MatthewBoydFanClub wrote: | | If you want to make a statement to a player like WHE and don't want to drop him then play him on the half back line. Move Noble to the half forward line as well as have McCreery there. Why did Tyler Brown get dropped before his brother? Tyler has been playing down back. It's the forward line that's the problem. There's no static movement in our forward line. We don't have the pace to run with the other teams. Thomas, Madgen, Callum Brown, Mayne and Sier are too slow. You go to training during the week the players are faster on the training track than they are on match day. That's because they pick all our slower players to play in the senior team. The selection of the team is becoming a joke. And don't tell me the club knows what it's doing and the supporters don't. You pay a guy almost a million dollars a year on a 7 year contract and then change your mind and give him away for almost nothing and keep paying a third of his salary for him to play for another club. |
Yes, good summary MBFB. Indeed, why was Tyler dropped before Cal? Unfortunately, when we got rid of both Adz and Stepho we also lost a massive amount of leg speed, and if our young recruits are not match ready yet, there is no one who can come in and add speed. For tonight's selection, I would have dropped WHE and replaced him with McCreery. I think I would also have dropped Cal Brown, and replaced him with Greenwood, to add a hardnut to the midfield/half back flank. ( I am assuming that Findlay McRae is not match ready yet). What I wouldnt give to have Adz, or Stepho, still in the team!
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PyreneesPie
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| ,^ Incomprehensible is a very apt description MTTM. Quite mind boggling isn't it. |
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Magpietothemax
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Now I am going to go and watch the PA Richmond clash, and watch two coaches who know what they are doing.
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PyreneesPie
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| Magpietothemax wrote: | | MatthewBoydFanClub wrote: | | If you want to make a statement to a player like WHE and don't want to drop him then play him on the half back line. Move Noble to the half forward line as well as have McCreery there. Why did Tyler Brown get dropped before his brother? Tyler has been playing down back. It's the forward line that's the problem. There's no static movement in our forward line. We don't have the pace to run with the other teams. Thomas, Madgen, Callum Brown, Mayne and Sier are too slow. You go to training during the week the players are faster on the training track than they are on match day. That's because they pick all our slower players to play in the senior team. The selection of the team is becoming a joke. And don't tell me the club knows what it's doing and the supporters don't. You pay a guy almost a million dollars a year on a 7 year contract and then change your mind and give him away for almost nothing and keep paying a third of his salary for him to play for another club. |
What I wouldnt give to have Adz, or Stepho, still in the team! |
I too can't understand keeping Callum in the team and dropping Tyler. Just downright strange!! It's selecting lack of skill and pace over developing future potential.
I reckon MTTM that both Adz and Tom will eventually be relieved that they were traded out.
Commentators on Fox Footy have just questioned why WHE was not dropped! |
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Magpietothemax
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| PyreneesPie wrote: |
I reckon MTTM that both Adz and Tom will eventually be relieved that they were traded out.
Commentators on Fox Footy have just questioned why WHE was not dropped! |
Not "eventually" PP, rather: "already".
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Is there anybody left on this site that actually supports the Collingwood Football Club?
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