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pietillidie
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And the EU invokes Article 16:
| Quote: | The EU is introducing controls on vaccines made in the bloc, including to Northern Ireland, amid a row about delivery shortfalls.
Under the Brexit deal, all products should be exported from the EU to Northern Ireland without checks.
But the EU believed this could be used to circumvent export controls, with NI becoming a backdoor to the wider UK.
DUP leader Arlene Foster described the move as "an incredible act of hostility" by the EU.
The EU invoked Article 16 of the Northern Ireland Protocol which allows parts of the deal to be unilaterally overridden.
In a new regulation the European Commission states: "This is justified as a safeguard measure pursuant to Article 16 of that Protocol in order to avert serious societal difficulties due to a lack of supply threatening to disturb the orderly implementation of the vaccination campaigns in the Member States."
The Northern Ireland Protocol is a special deal to prevent the re-emergence of a hard border between Northern Ireland and the Republic of Ireland.
Article 16 of the Northern Ireland Protocol, agreed in the original withdrawal agreement, is essentially a safeguard that would allow the UK or EU to act unilaterally if measures imposed as a result of the protocol are deemed to be causing "serious economic, societal or environmental difficulties". |
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc.com/news/amp/uk-northern-ireland-55864442
As predictable as day follows night this is what the UK 'taking back control' by leaving an enormous union to fight a lone spoiling role in the world led by halfwits like Johnson would look like.
This is a potential nightmare on top of years of wreckage already. There is zero patience with the UK in Europe after the wanton destruction of Brexit. But just as predictably, like the Trump cult, the fist-waving wreckers will claim to be the poor victims.
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pietillidie
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The EU has mercifully walked back the threat of invoking Article 16, but by no means entirely:
| Quote: | | “The commission is not triggering the safeguard clause,” the commission said. “Should transits of vaccines and active substances toward third countries be abused to circumvent the authorisation system, the EU will consider using all the instruments at its disposal. In the process of finalising the document, the commission will also be fine-tuning the decision-making process under the implementing regulation.” |
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/jan/29/eu-controls-on-vaccine-exports-to-northern-ireland-trigger-diplomatic-row
I would say the Republic of Ireland would've had a lot to do with calming this situation. But just to get to this place so quickly is an example of how perilous Brexit has made things in this part of the world. It's an unmitigated disaster.
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roar
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| pietillidie wrote: | | roar wrote: | | European Union, as it exists now, is a goner. Won't last another 5 years, IMO. |
Lots of things will change in five years. But what do you mean by 'a goner' and why? |
Will fall apart because most people don't want it. It could possibly be rejigged to become simply an economic agreement but I would say the single currency is mostly doomed and the unified political approach totally doomed.
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pietillidie
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| roar wrote: | | pietillidie wrote: | | roar wrote: | | European Union, as it exists now, is a goner. Won't last another 5 years, IMO. |
Lots of things will change in five years. But what do you mean by 'a goner' and why? |
Will fall apart because most people don't want it. It could possibly be rejigged to become simply an economic agreement but I would say the single currency is mostly doomed and the unified political approach totally doomed. |
Do you have data showing 'most people don't want it'? My recollection is that the margins are comfortably in favour of the EU overall, and 'remain' even in countries like Italy is still significantly ahead. Meanwhile, support for Brexit in the UK has dropped sharply as expected.
There are favourability ratings in the survey below. The median of 66 is incredibly high, but according to you 'most people don't want it' 
https://www.pewresearch.org/global/2020/11/17/majorities-in-the-european-union-have-favorable-views-of-the-bloc/
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stui magpie 
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In the meantime they extend the state of emergency while there's zero cases in the community and increase the number of people allowed to attend the Tennis.
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eddiesmith 
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Did laugh at them saying it will be the biggest attendance allowed at a sporting event in the works for months...
Umm, Mr Pakula must still be suffering from Amnesia as they had 30,000 a day capacity at the Boxing Day test in Melbourne... |
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eddiesmith
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So they had all those workers paid to do nothing yet when they needed to ramp up testing quickly there was no one readily available... |
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| eddiesmith wrote: |
So they had all those workers paid to do nothing yet when they needed to ramp up testing quickly there was no one readily available... |
Well done professor: anyone can do testing...... you should apply 😂😂
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eddiesmith
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| watt price tully wrote: | | eddiesmith wrote: |
So they had all those workers paid to do nothing yet when they needed to ramp up testing quickly there was no one readily available... |
Well done professor: anyone can do testing...... you should apply 😂😂 |
If you ever had the misfortune of going to one of those testing sites, they were just about anyone...
CFA was providing people for testing sites...
But it was more to the point they kept hq staff on full pay in case they ever needed them yet couldn’t keep testers readily available?
Btw has your favourite ABC spin doctor admitted he was wrong about NSW yet? |
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eddiesmith
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One case and Labor premier goes straight into stage 4 lockdown...
Yet again hotel security guards who are also Uber drivers... |
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Dave The Man
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| eddiesmith wrote: | One case and Labor premier goes straight into stage 4 lockdown...
Yet again hotel security guards who are also Uber drivers... |
So you be happy to be like the UK having at least 10's of Thousands Cases a Day and 100's of People Dying a Day then?
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Dave The Man
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IF the UK Strain took off in Australia then the Whole Country could be in Lockdown and won't get out until the Vaccine Comes(Be Months at least) and Nearly the Whole Country get the Vaccine before the Lockdown Ends.
Case from UK Found in WA
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stui magpie
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| Dave The Man wrote: | | eddiesmith wrote: | One case and Labor premier goes straight into stage 4 lockdown...
Yet again hotel security guards who are also Uber drivers... |
So you be happy to be like the UK having at least 10's of Thousands Cases a Day and 100's of People Dying a Day then?
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No Dave, it's not either/ or. NSW has proven and Andrew's learned that you don't need to lock down hundreds of thousands of people if you've got decent contact tracing.
As soon as you get a case you lock them and their immediate family and any close contacts down, then close contacts of the family and of the close contacts. That takes most of the risk out without messing with hundreds of thousands of people for no reason.
McGowan is a blonk. NSW kicked him out yonks ago
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David 
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| Dave The Man wrote: | IF the UK Strain took off in Australia then the Whole Country could be in Lockdown and won't get out until the Vaccine Comes(Be Months at least) and Nearly the Whole Country get the Vaccine before the Lockdown Ends.
Case from UK Found in WA |
It’s never too late for WA to secede! That might be one way to solve the problem. 
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