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sherrife 
Victorian Socialists - people before profit
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| Pies4shaw wrote: | | Adams gives 110% every game. That isn’t the problem. The problem is that he does it on (maybe?) 75% of the talent of the genuinely great players. We would (or should) trade him away in a heartbeat for any of Dangerfield, Cotchin, Martin, Bont, Cripps, Shiel, Kelly (GWS), Kelly (WC), Neale, Maccrae, Lloyd, Gaff, Petracca, Boak, Fyfe etc. He has done his very best and got quite a lot of the ball but he’s not in the first 20 midfielders you’d pick, if you had the choice. Credit to him that he’s in the AA team against a whole bunch of players that are better than him but it’s like Licuria being our best mid two years in a row. You love their effort and commitment but they’re actually not too useful. |
I won't hear a word against Licuria. Seriously, players like that lift the team, it's an X factor you can't trade away without damaging the soul of the club.
Congrats to Darcy, who was a lock, but also Adams who is an extremely reliable, committed and tough as nails midfielder. Maynard has had a poor last 4 weeks, I think he would have got in on form before that. But he's unlucky nevertheless.
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RudeBoy
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| It's a bit of a joke that Pendles didn't get a guernsey. |
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5 from the wing on debut
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| Pies4shaw wrote: | | What is "Googs"? |
He was thor that you were going to ask that. |
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Pies2016
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| Pies4shaw wrote: | | Adams gives 110% every game. That isn’t the problem. The problem is that he does it on (maybe?) 75% of the talent of the genuinely great players. We would (or should) trade him away in a heartbeat for any of Dangerfield, Cotchin, Martin, Bont, Cripps, Shiel, Kelly (GWS), Kelly (WC), Neale, Maccrae, Lloyd, Gaff, Petracca, Boak, Fyfe etc. He has done his very best and got quite a lot of the ball but he’s not in the first 20 midfielders you’d pick, if you had the choice. Credit to him that he’s in the AA team against a whole bunch of players that are better than him but it’s like Licuria being our best mid two years in a row. You love their effort and commitment but they’re actually not too useful. |
I don’t think anyone is un aware of his faults but my point back earlier is that for the few errors he makes, people are too quick to pinpoint that against his good, unless you’re an AFL coach of course.
And of course you would trade him in a heartbeat for the above players but that’s because they are better than him. ( Shiel, really ?? ) No one ever claimed him to be an elite player but he is clearly recognised by those who know as a better player than some would suggest. |
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inxs88
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Staggering some have written Adams off this year even as of two days ago!!!
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neil 
Joined: 08 Sep 2005
Location: Queensland
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All those who want to trade out Taylor have eggs on faces about now
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Sicks Bux
Hal 2003-2019
Joined: 30 Jun 2020
Location: Me Island Ome
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^Pies4shaw doesn't think so. After Taylor got the AA selection I asked P4S if they still thought Taylor was past his use by date and I got this response:
| Pies4shaw wrote: | Yes, of course.
IMO, he lacks skill and, in particular, never does anything special with ball in hand.
I expect him to win the Copeland, too but, IMO, neither he nor Treloar is good enough in their position to help Collingwood win a flag. I consider that they command too much of the ball but do too little with it when they have it and that they are also next to useless defensively when their opponents get the pill in the midfield.
It's just a view. Other people are entitled to a different one.
Hopefully, Adams will suddenly prove me completely wrong and turn into an incisive ball-magnet who cuts the West Coast backline to ribbons, rather than a guy the opposition don't bother tagging because they couldn't care less how much he gets the ball. |
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Pies4shaw 
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| It’s great - we should get a better deal for him, now. |
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Sicks Bux
Hal 2003-2019
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There's zero chance of us trading Adams this year.
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Pies4shaw
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| It doesn't mean we can't hope. |
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