List Management Targets

[K]

[Sicks Bux]

I hear Essendon are trying to get Bachar Houli back, so he can be a stable pony for Adam Saad.

[magpieazza]

Yes a pony should add stability

[swoop42]

I'm wondering whether the dogs and pies might look to do a pick exchange this trade period if no better option surfaces to maximise the value of their 1st round selection in 2020/21.

By all reports the dogs NGA prospect is expected to be bid on inside the first few selections and might well go pick 1 this year while Daicos is projected as being a top 10 pick next season.

While we'd carry more risk as we're still 12 months away from discovering the true value of Daicos with both clubs set to finish in similar positions this season and likely next year also it might be workable.

[Clifton Hill-Billy]

Somebody said Mihocek for Brown is a done deal, I almost vomitted when I heard it.

[Pies2016]

The “ feedback “ I have heard from two different sources ( both within the industry ) is that Geelong and Pies have been in dialogue over a swap of picks that benefits both clubs objectives on draft night

Warning - if you don’t enjoy or understand the draft day machinations, look away now.

Current Indicative draft order Pies - 12 , 34 , 37. Cats - 11 , 15 , 16.
Hine has indicated they want to improve their draft hand. Scott refuses to draft for the future and is only interested in plug and play players for the now.
The Cats have no intention of going to the draft with three first round picks.

The “ feedback “ is that Pies would swap 12 , 34 and 37 for Geelongs 15 and 16 picks. That swap as it stands, equates to virtually an identical swap in terms of draft points, so it’s a fair and true swap of picks.
Geelong benefits by moving up in the first round ( going from 11, 15, 16 to 11, 12 ) and also having the late second round picks for a deal to secure either Higgins or Goldstein or whoever.
Collingwood also gain by having pick 15 to secure McIness ( this is assuming McInnes name is called out before then and that’s likely ) and then Pies go on to select yet again late in the first round with pick 16.

There’s a lot of water under the bridge but it makes sense in terms of what both clubs are looking to achieve at the draft.
This would give us a draft haul of McInnes and another late first rounder, subject to compensation picks and NGA selections pushing the order out.

Re Swoops comments on Nick Daicos, one other option that always remains coming into the 2021 draft for Daicos, is that we can always trade out one of our 2022 early picks in order to improve our 2021 draft hand ( if required )

[scoobydoo]

Next years forward line. Only have Thomas there
as he is only genuine small forward.

J.Thomas Miochek. W.Kelly
Stephenson B.Brown DeGoey

[K]

[Pies2016]

[barrackers]

[Pies2016]

^^^

We need to remember that right now we can only refer to indicative draft order. In reality, everyone’s picks will start to push out further and possibly from the moment the number one pick is called out. 15 and 16 probably pushes out to somewhere in the low 20s ( ? ) and compensation picks come into this too. I don’t think anyone thinks McInnes would still be there in by the early twenties ( unless he presents in physically bad shape at the Combine )
In a way, how these prospects present themselves at the Combine has a big bearing on where they are selected this year. With no footy, it’s a bit of a test for them to see how dedicated they are to remaining fit without any footy to be played. They all know it too because it’s a KPI that’s been drilled into them through all of 2020.
The other option of course, is that if his name isn’t called out, then Collingwood would still have two consecutive picks ( scenario only ) to make the call on him. It just means they don’t get the 20 % points discount on that selection.

[Presti35]

Beat WCE and our picks will be too close to what Geelong hold for it to make sense wont they?

[inxs88]

[Presti35]

Trade:
Scharenberg to Adelaide for Jake Kelly. Like-for-like, but fitter and faster. Brother at the club. Not an essential move, but a good one.

Phillips to Freo for Jesse Hogan. Is that enough to get it done? Many seem to think Hogan is done, so it's a risk. Longmuir knows Phillips so it might be one for them to think about.

Sier and Draft Picks to Essendon for Zach Merrett. Do Essendon jump at that? What picks would be required to get it done? If he wants out it might work, but getting the right pick will be the problem. Will be a free agent next year.

Draft pick to Gold Coast for Peter Wright. Is a 3rd rounder fair? Dont want to spend too much. He wants to be a Pie.

North Melbourne players; Ben Brown and Jared Polec. Find out what North want and what the contracts look like. Could Hogan-Brown work as a CHF-FF combo? Someone mentioned Robbie Tarrant as a short-term replacement on Reid, but at 31, I'm not sure its the right way to go and he isn't filling a need a part from depth.

Should we have a crack at Ed Richards? Deep down he wants to be a Pie and he should be in our jumper. Be careful not to bring sentiment into it, but the number 20 jumper is available. Might not have the picks to get it done. If we trade Phillips, there's a spot in the team for him.

FA:
I hear that Viney is going to stay with Melbourne, but please can we at least throw him a fone call? Surely it's not just out of Geelong or Melbourne? Would be a mega upgrade on Sier. And geez I'd love it.... seeing the Demons fans faces when he does a presser in a Collingwood polo.

DFA:
Brandon Matera is an option worth looking at. 28yo, small forward/mid.



Is it possible to have the picks/points we need to get McInnes and be able to trade in valuable players?

With Langdon, Beams, Reid, Dunn to retire. With Broomhead, Appleby, Wills, Lynch, Tohill and Keane delisted. And Sier, Scharenberg and Phillips traded... Is that enough cap space saved and spots on the list available to target the players listed above?

[Presti35]