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Wokko Pisces

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 16, 2020 2:43 pm
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Someone's religion isn't their politics. He's part of the Centre faction of the Liberal party, what about that is so hard for you to understand? He's a Centrist, Turnbull and Pyne were "moderates" or the Liberal Left and Dutton and Abbott are Liberal Right.

Of course when you're sitting as far left as you are a Centrist looks a long way to the right.
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Morrison is a centrist like the tower of Pisa doesn’t lean. Then again if all one got from article was that it was about religion then you’ll think Morrison is a Centrist.
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stui magpie Gemini

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 16, 2020 4:06 pm
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watt price tully wrote:
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watt price tully wrote:


With respect to China, Morrison totally f*cked up by going so early on his own: that is beyond debate unless you’re only reading is the Murdoch press.


Utter bullshit.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-06-13/coronavirus-china-australia-foreign-students-threats-federal-gov/12350738?section=analysis


Nice link but does zero with respect to your term “bullshit”.

Morrison f*cked up with respect to China and how to go about bilateral trade. You miss the point. The point is not to be beholden to China, not to grovel but not to force them into a diplomatic corner either as he did when he first called for an international investigation into the CornaVirus.
What we got was a watered down investigation into nothing while losing trade.


Pretty much everyone agrees that China has massively over reacted, setting the tone that if you want to trade with them, practice your fellatio and arse kissing. In doing so they've done us and the rest of the world that trades with them a massive favour. We now know they're an unreliable trading partner who will turn on you in a second for any imagined slight so, as in the article, we're planning to not be reliant on them.

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stui magpie Gemini

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 16, 2020 8:10 pm
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Andrews calls in the Feds and hands over control of the state Labor party. Steve Bracks and Jenny Macklin to do the review

https://www.news.com.au/national/politics/adem-somyurek-dan-andrews-declares-no-confidence-in-leaked-letter/news-story/edd5f0d97b6b05901e87abab9d907281

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Victorian Premier Dan Andrews has declared “no confidence” in the integrity of the ALP’s own membership roll in an extraordinary letter demanding a suspension of rank and file preselections until 2023.

In a dramatic bid to “clean house” after branch stacking allegations, the ALP national executive will now determine who is preselected as Labor candidates for the next federal election, while a full audit of every member is conducted.


I'm gonna give him a tick for this, a big one, if it results in a genuine review and reform.

People just don't join political parties these days, particularly when they have to pay for the privilege and get jack in return. Labor reckons 1/4 of it's members in Vic might be bogus, I reckons they're lucky if 1/4 are real.

For the working persons party, born from the union movement, to wipe out the bullshit and give real people a genuine say may be just what the party needs. Or it could destroy it. Either way, worth the shot.

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Morrigu Capricorn



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PostPosted: Tue Jun 16, 2020 8:28 pm
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stui magpie wrote:
People just don't join political parties these days, particularly when they have to pay for the privilege and get jack in return

We did and happily contribute on a regular basis Very Happy

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stui magpie Gemini

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Young lady, under no definition would you be an average person, the kind I intended when I said "people" Wink
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Wokko Pisces

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 16, 2020 9:04 pm
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I joined the Liberal Democrats when David Leyonhjelm was kicking ass and taking names but lost interest when he left federal politics. Would never give money to the LibLab two headed beast.
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I’ve been a member of the Wikileaks Party (RIP) and considered joining Reason, the Socialist Equality Party and the Greens at various times. Liberal and Labor Party members feel like aliens from another galaxy to me, but each to their own!
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I've been asked to join the LNP before, but always rejected them.

I did consider joining the Australian Conservatives for a brief moment, but that ship has sailed with the party being dissolved last year.

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 17, 2020 12:45 pm
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I would never join a political party that would have me as a member.
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stui magpie Gemini

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 17, 2020 1:13 pm
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Boom Boom, Groucho. Wink

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think positive Libra

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 17, 2020 1:16 pm
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when you cant attend do they give you a pin and a party?

do they post your cap out?

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PostPosted: Sat Jun 20, 2020 12:26 pm
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Great article by the impressive Katherine Murphy


Love Island, Revenge Edition: Labor is trapped in a soap opera at taxpayers’ expense


https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2020/jun/20/love-island-revenge-edition-labor-is-trapped-in-a-soap-opera-at-taxpayers-expense

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Wokko Pisces

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Pies4shaw Leo

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 22, 2020 8:25 pm
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Deaths in Victoria from COVID since 23 May 2020 - NIL.

The Trump Slump - deaths in the US from COVID since 23 May 2020 - 24,380.

Victoria's confirmed new COVID cases in the last 7 days - 115

The Trump Slump - confirmed new COVID cases in the in the last 7 days - 193,644.

It's a matter of perspective, I suppose.
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