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David
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Joined: 27 Jul 2003 Location: Andromeda
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We’ve witnessed a curious phenomenon in the first two games of this season: each game has begun with a streak of goals. Richmond were 5.0 to Carlton’s 1.0 before a behind was kicked, while we were up 4.0 to the Bulldogs’ 1.0 before our first minor score was registered. While both teams soon started missing (we kicked 2.6 from late in the first quarter to early in the second), the cumulative scores of both games have both been reasonably accurate: Richmond 16.9 v Carlton 12.9 (total: 28.18) and Collingwood 13.8 vs Western Bulldogs 5.4 (total 18.12). By contrast, in the first round of 2019, the cumulative scores across the first nine games were 23.23, 19.23, 21.22, 19.28, 20.27, 23.22, 26.13, 21.26 and 30.20, which averages out to 22.23 (i.e. an almost equal goals/behinds tally). Now, these first two games could prove to be an outlier, but if the trend of relative accuracy continues, I think we’ll have discovered something kind of interesting: that the absence of crowd is providing less of a distraction and helping players’ goalkicking.
What would be really fascinating would be to go through past attendances and see if this bears out for games played in front of small crowds vs games played in front of large crowds, or whether you have to have a completely empty stadium to have this effect. Anyway, just thought it was an interesting observation! _________________ All watched over by machines of loving grace
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Skids
Quitting drinking will be one of the best choices you make in your life.
Joined: 11 Sep 2007 Location: Joined 3/6/02 . Member #175
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I always found it was easier to kick at goal at training than in a game, makes sense. The shots from an angle more so, no idiot leaning over the fence telling you you're Mum wears army boots has got to be a bonus _________________ Don't count the days, make the days count. |
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Rd10.1998_11.1#36
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Joined: 18 Jul 2018 Location: Sevilla, Spain
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What would be really fascinating would be to wait for a sample size of more than 2 games
Having said that, my premature opinion is that some teams will struggle to get going in front of an empty stadium, allowing others to get a jump on them _________________ https://forever.collingwoodfc.com.au/sav-sinks-the-dockers/ |
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think better
Joined: 16 May 2005 Location: Adelaide
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Remember when Travis Cloke used to train using loud noises to simulate the crowd noise in an effort to quell his nerves?
makes sense that the noise and expectations of a large crowd can both rev you up and make you nervous _________________ I think therefore I think - I think |
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simon tonna
Joined: 24 Oct 2013 Location: carindale
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having the yips in front of the goals is pure pshycological and
mixed in with a bit of technique. Fix your technique then clear
your mind of any noise like doubt and boom your away. confidence
will return and crowd noise will be a thing of the past. _________________ no second chances |
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barrackers
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Wondered the same about the crowd noise until we started missing easy goals.
The 'dogs kicked 5 goals straight, but finished with 4 straight behinds. Did fatigue come to the fore? |
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Pies2016
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At some point, if we ask enough players their thoughts, we will probably get the answer.
My original thoughts are that no crowds would improve the accuracy but in truth, what works for some doesn’t work for others. |
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Dave The Man
Joined: 01 Apr 2005 Location: Someville, Victoria, Australia
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Rd10.1998_11.1#36 wrote: | What would be really fascinating would be to wait for a sample size of more than 2 games
Having said that, my premature opinion is that some teams will struggle to get going in front of an empty stadium, allowing others to get a jump on them |
Well we did not struggle to get Going vs Dogs _________________ I am Da Man |
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Pies4shaw
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^ Yes, DTM - but I think Sav's point was that the Dogs might have struggled to get going without their screaming fanbase of 12 loyal supporters. |
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Pies4shaw
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Adelaide 6.0, Swans 3.0 at quarter-time in their game.
And 7.1 to 8.3 at the half. |
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K
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Giants 17.3 late in Q4!!
But nothing else impressive-looking in the games today.
Port 10.16!! |
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David
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There’s definitely a marked difference between the early portions of the matches and the final scores. If you look at the first quarters alone of the six games that have been played so far, the aggregate score is 45 goals and 13 behinds, which is insane; that’s a strike rate of over 75%! By the time the games have finished, the cumulative score is 127 goals and 93 behinds, which only represents 57.8% goalscoring accuracy – still a significant improvement on last year’s average of 52%.
Another thing I noticed about first quarter accuracy: in the first six games alone, four teams have reached quarter time without a minor score to their names; last year, it took until round seven for a fourth team to manage that feat. _________________ All watched over by machines of loving grace |
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K
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Well, if there's a Q1 thing, I'll guess that you have only 3 more games to see it. |
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neil
Joined: 08 Sep 2005 Location: Queensland
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Shorter quarters mean less fatigue is my guess
Plus a larger sample size is needed _________________ Carlscum 120 years being cheating scum |
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Rd10.1998_11.1#36
rd10.1998_11.1#36
Joined: 18 Jul 2018 Location: Sevilla, Spain
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