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PostPosted: Sun Jul 28, 2019 10:23 am
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I'll post news stories on this at a later time (there have been many on this issue since the end of the final), but I see that the ICC has backed the incorrect awarding of overthrows by umpire Dharmasena, who himself has admitted it was a wrong decision but claims he does not regret it. (It was just one run too many that was awarded, but of course people will care about every run when the end result is a tie.)

Do they really need to do this?

Back your umpires when they are abused by out-of-control English batsmen. You can do that by banning the guilty batsman and giving him a huge fine.

Don't say deceitful things like "it was their interpretation" and "they made a judgement call", or similar rubbish, when it's an objective error, avoidance of which does not require any interpretation or any judgment, but simply knowing what the law is, as explained to us all by retired super-umpire Simon Taufel. If you really cannot bring yourself to say anything honest, as the governing body for the sport, then just say nothing at all. What a disgrace. I can understand the umpiring error made at the time, but this deceitful excuse-making is intolerable.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 07, 2019 5:31 pm
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Updated 16 Jul 2019, 2:21pm

Cricket World Cup: Umpire Simon Taufel says England incorrectly awarded run in final win over New Zealand

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-07-16/icc-refuses-to-be-drawn-on-overthrow-controversy/11312270

"However, it has since emerged that under Law 19.8, extra runs are only awarded if the batsmen have crossed when the ball is thrown, which was not the case on Sunday.

It means that England should only have received five runs off the delivery, leaving it with four to win off two balls.

Crucially, it also would have seen number 10 Rashid on strike for the next ball, rather than the in-form Stokes.

Play was stopped for more than a minute following the ball, as the umpires met mid-pitch.

Former five-time ICC umpire of the year and member of the MCC laws sub-committee, Simon Taufel, has also since admitted the on-field officials got it wrong.

"It's a clear mistake … it's an error of judgment," Taufel told Fox Sports."
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 07, 2019 5:34 pm
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July 15, 2019 — 5.43pm

'We're not perfect': Taufel admits World Cup umpires got it wrong

https://www.smh.com.au/sport/cricket/world-cup-umps-got-it-wrong-taufel-20190715-p527g9.html

"But a throw from New Zealand's Martin Guptill ricocheted off Stokes' bat as the batsman dived home, running away for four overthrows. England were awarded six runs.

However, according to Law 19.8, pertaining to an "overthrow or wilful act of fielder", Stokes should only have been credited for five runs.

"If the boundary results from an overthrow or from the wilful act of a fielder, the runs scored shall be any runs for penalties awarded to either side, and the allowance for the boundary, and the runs completed by the batsmen, together with the run in progress if they had already crossed at the instant of the throw or act," the law says.

Replays showed that Stokes and non-striker Adil Rashid hadn't crossed at the time of the throw.
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"There was a judgment error on the overthrow," Taufel told The Age and Sydney Morning Herald.

"The judgment error was the timing of when the fielder threw the ball. The act of the overthrow starts when the fielder releases the ball. That's the act.

"It becomes an overthrow from the instant of the throw."
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"So it's unfortunate that there was a judgment error on the timing of the release of the ball and where the batsmen were. They did not cross on their second run, at the instant of the throw. So given that scenario, five runs should have been the correct allocation of runs, and Ben Stokes should have been at the non-striker's end for the next delivery." "
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 19, 2019 3:09 pm
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"...Kyle Abbott has picked up 17 wickets in a County Championship Division One match...

The former South African Test quick took 9-40 in the first innings and followed up with 8-46 in the second to finish with 17-86 - the best figures in first-class cricket since England's Jim Laker..."


(Reuters)

In the ODI WC, as S. Africa's campaign crashed and their injuries mounted, there were media jokes about Abbott's availability to be brought into the squad. I don't know his place in the one-day side before he effectively "retired", but this is another example of England being at least partly responsible for weakening other countries' cricket teams. These S. Africans have to choose between international cricket and comfy lives as County professionals.
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 22, 2019 4:43 pm
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cricinfo says this about Kyle Abbott:

"While that did not always guarantee him a place in the side, he traveled with South Africa to the 2015 World Cup and found himself thrust into a bigger role when Philander picked up a hamstring injury.

He played in half of South Africa's six group stage matches and the quarter-final and was their most successful bowler in terms of strike-rate and economy. But he was left out of the semi-final XI in favour of the fit-again Philander, a decision that was later revealed as having been partly politically motivated. He went on to feature more regularly in the ODI and T20 teams and was also part of the side that played in the 2016 World T20.

Later that year, however, frustrated by the lack of certainty over his place, Abbott signed a three-year Kolpak deal with Hampshire to start in 2017. He did not inform Cricket South Africa or his team-mates until he got wind of that the news was going to break during the New Year's Test at Newlands.

By then, Abbott was a first-choice pick in the Test team because of injuries to Dale Steyn and Morne Morkel and had played four matches in succession. He was also a preferred option for the one-day side and was being primed to open the bowling at the Champions Trophy.

CSA held urgent talks with Abbott and his agent during the match but could not convince him to change his mind. Abbott confirmed his exit from the international stage after the match. His CSA contract was immediately terminated and he lost his place in the squad for the third Test."
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 25, 2019 1:07 am
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BBL and WBBL to have multiple Super Overs to resolve tied finals

https://www.espncricinfo.com/story/_/id/27688304/bbl-wbbl-multiple-super-overs-resolve-tied-finals

"Cricket Australia has moved to avoid a repeat of the controversial World Cup final ... by adjusting the playing regulations to ensure that further Super Overs take place...

One of the issues CA had to deal with was some grounds around Australia, like the SCG, have a curfew on when the lights must be turned off, which in the event of multiple Super Overs of a night fixture could cause the game to remain uncompleted. The WBBL also has some double-headers which could cause time constraints...

Cricket Australia added a provision to the playing conditions that states, "In circumstances where Cricket Australia has unavoidable time restraints, such as, but not limited to, double-header semi-finals, it shall limit the number of possible super overs and advise teams either pre-match, or prior to the final super over. In the case of a tied super over under (such) circumstances then, the higher placed team will be declared the winner.""
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Behrendorff opts for same lower spine surgery as Pattinson

https://www.espncricinfo.com/story/_/id/27795367/behrendorff-opts-same-lower-spine-surgery-pattinson
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 15, 2019 2:14 pm
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ICC announces super over modifications after World Cup dramas

https://www.theage.com.au/sport/cricket/icc-announces-super-over-modifications-after-world-cup-dramas-20191015-p530ot.html

'In a statement following a board meeting in Dubai, the ICC said: "Following on from a recommendation from the ICC Cricket Committee, the Chief Executives' Committee agreed that use of the super over as a way to decide results at ICC events will be retained. ...

"In semi-finals and finals, there is one change to the super over regulation in keeping with the basic principle of scoring more runs than the opponent to win, the super over will be repeated until one team has more runs than the other." '
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Bangladesh skipper Shakib banned after accepting corruption charges

https://www.theage.com.au/sport/cricket/bangladesh-skipper-shakib-banned-after-accepting-corruption-charges-20191030-p535ke.html

"Bangladesh captain Shakib Al Hasan has been banned from all cricket for two years, with 12 months suspended, by the International Cricket Council after accepting three anti-corruption charges.

The 32-year-old was found to have failed to report two approaches he received during a tri-series between Bangladesh, Sri Lanka and Zimbabwe in January 2018, and one related to a 2018 Indian Premier League match between Sunrisers Hyderabad and Kings XI Punjab."



[Shakib was possibly the player of the WC, though the official award went to Kane. This is bad news for cricket.]
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 02, 2019 8:33 pm
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Finch:

"I think everyone, I know I did in particular, overplayed how big an impact spin would have in the World Cup. Everyone felt at that time of the year with a lot of matches being played on surfaces that spin would play a huge part. England grounds are bloody small. If you get it slightly wrong you get hurt, especially as a spinner. That was one thing we overplayed slightly."

(cricinfo)
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 10, 2019 4:37 pm
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Disappointing to see New Zealand re-enact their end of final choke in the series-deciding T20 game against England at Eden Park.

Given 11 overs a side in a rain-affected fixture, NZ started like rockets (through Guptill, who made a fantastic 50) and meandered to 5/146. They then had England needing 16 from the last over to tie and 17 to win (again). Neesham bowled. England got 16 (again). In the super over, England scored 17 and then, for reasons I don't quite understand, NZ selected Seifert on strike and Guptill at the non-striker's end. Seifert then proceeded to mistime 4 shots (including holing out from the last) for 2, Wide, 4, 0, Out, leaving Guptill with the ridiculous task of having to hit two boundaries (including at least one six) to tie or win. He got a single from his first ball and that was that. The last ball was a dot - it's a pity it couldn't have been under-armed, just for fun, since nothing at all turned on it.

Anyway, it looked like the choices of Boult to bowl the super over and Seifert to face the bowling in NZ's were entirely the wrong ones.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 28, 2019 12:04 am
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Simon Taufel interview, cricinfo:

"Where were you during the World Cup final, and what were your first thoughts when you saw Kumar Dharmasena adjudge the overthrows?

I was sitting at home and watching. It's easy to sit back in our lounge chairs and make judgements without other things going on around us. If we get something wrong, there's no accountability for that. We can say whatever we like. But when you're on the cricket field or in the third-umpire's box and have a pressure moment and you know you're accountable for whatever you do or don't do, that's the difference. Having been there and done that, I know what those guys [Kumar Dharmasena and Marais Erasmus] must have gone through.

Overall, the standard of umpiring at the World Cup was very good. I don't think in a game of 600-plus balls to say one decision or one delivery was the deciding factor is fair. Two elements of the game were tied.


Have you had a chance to speak to Dharmasena after the incident?

Not Kumar specifically, but Marais has been in touch and we've had conversations about that. Kumar, from reading his comments about not regretting his decision to award overthrows to England, is owning his performance. That's a great quality. For him to acknowledge it takes courage. He's a very good umpire and will continue to be so because of his attributes of hard work and commitment. I expect nothing less from ICC Elite Panel umpires."

https://www.espncricinfo.com/story/_/id/28167473/our-game-mental-game-most-our-work-ears
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"New Zealand have been awarded the Christopher Martin-Jenkins Spirit of Cricket award for their "sporting conduct" in the aftermath of the World Cup final at Lord's."
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The only Australian in cricinfo's ODI team of the decade is...


"With three different World Cup winners in the decade, it is no surprise that as many as six different countries are represented in our ODI XI."

Hashim Amla, Rohit Sharma, Virat Kohli, AB de Villiers, Ross Taylor, MS Dhoni, Shakib Al Hasan, Trent Boult, Mitchell Starc, Lasith Malinga, Imran Tahir.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 16, 2020 2:36 pm
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Virat Kohli was given the ICC Spirit of Cricket award.

https://twitter.com/ICC/status/1217321828638740481


[Who is Mia Khalifa? Shocked

A disgruntled commenter on the tweet above says this is "like mia khalifa winning virgin of the year award". Shocked

Another comment: "It should be given to kane Williamson for not beating up umpire dharmasena after his stupidity gave england the world cup."

A lot of support for Kane in the comments (and most commenters seem to be Indians). ]
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