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Would you support changing the national anthem?
Yes
35%
 35%  [ 5 ]
Yes, but only if a really compelling alternative presented itself
7%
 7%  [ 1 ]
No
57%
 57%  [ 8 ]
Total Votes : 14

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David Libra

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PostPosted: Sat Jan 02, 2021 1:05 pm
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Praise seems beside the point – non-Indigenous people aren’t ever going to disappear en masse from the country and nobody expects them to. So the idea must surely be a belated agreement that recognises and factors in Indigenous demands + offers an actual say in how the country is run, particularly regarding traditional lands and communities. NZ seems to be the ideal model here.
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stui magpie Gemini

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PostPosted: Sat Jan 02, 2021 1:51 pm
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^

I'd be very careful about adopting the Kiwi model, there's some serious differences in the situation. For a start, the Maori tribes are far more homogenous than the Australian Aboriginals.

You could use it as a starting place maybe.

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PostPosted: Sat Jan 02, 2021 3:02 pm
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David wrote:
So the idea must surely be a belated agreement that recognises and factors in Indigenous demands + offers an actual say in how the country is run, particularly regarding traditional lands and communities. NZ seems to be the ideal model here.


Can you give some examples of how they get more of a say?

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David Libra

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PostPosted: Sat Jan 02, 2021 4:29 pm
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It’s not really for me to say, but some random ideas off the top of my head might be dedicated Indigenous seats in parliament (as per NZ; in our case perhaps it could be an additional six senators, one for each state, that only Indigenous people vote for); local authorities that governments must consult with and agree with before making decisions specifically related to, say, remote communities or Indigenous people more broadly; perhaps some form of reparations; and the capacity for the establishment of autonomous regions as exist in the US and Canada.

In any case, this would probably be a good place to start:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uluru_Statement_from_the_Heart

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PostPosted: Sat Jan 02, 2021 11:22 pm
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It’s neeorf and truth us how many people actually know the words? ,
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 03, 2021 10:36 am
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David wrote:
It’s not really for me to say, but some random ideas off the top of my head might be dedicated Indigenous seats in parliament (as per NZ; in our case perhaps it could be an additional six senators, one for each state, that only Indigenous people vote for); local authorities that governments must consult with and agree with before making decisions specifically related to, say, remote communities or Indigenous people more broadly; perhaps some form of reparations; and the capacity for the establishment of autonomous regions as exist in the US and Canada.

In any case, this would probably be a good place to start:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uluru_Statement_from_the_Heart


Thanks for that. I'll get across the detail because it's something I should know more about.

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